Harry who?

http://www.themovieblog.com/archives...s_rip_off.html

I've been thinking this for such a long time. Mrs Rowling seems to have used the same general plot as the last three episodes of Star Wars and hasn't even done a good job of hiding it. Wizards turning to the Dark Arts, tell me I heard that concept before. Everything was completely fine and dandy until she actually found out Luke and Vader only had two battles and that is when she had to stretch her own mind and came up with the crap that rounded off the Order of the Phoenix.

Another point to make is that Harry Potter isn't making much sense logically. Are we to believe some inexperienced teenage kid can take out the supposedly most powerful and evilest wizard using his silly little elementary spells?

"Here's one I learnt in first grade"
"Ow that hurt, now it's my turn, I've been practising Dark Arts for many a year here's the best I can come up with, a stupid spell that will only succeed in giving you a scar"
Duh
Give us a little more credit Mrs Rowling
If I was Voldemort and God help me one day I won't be I would have done him in, in one feel swoop as soon as I got the chance

Anyways, Harry Potter is the same film told over and over again each time with new charcaters, new villains, new magical crappy items that have no use in future films (i.e. Philiosopher's Stone), a few good ideas but nothing more to beat it's inspiration that was less than half it's size

Opinions?

Another point that doesnt make sense is how in the first book when they had to pick a potion to go through the fire why there was a potion still there when voldemort had already gone through, you'd think it would have already been used.

But people tend to use ideas over and over. Its done with lots of films and books.

And if theres anything you cant explain. A wizard did it

My opinion is that you're wrong about this one. I don't think HP rips on Star Wars. If anything it rips on Lord of the Rings, but it doesn't rip on anything. You will see similarities between this and other stories, just as you will with most things. Older stories infulence newer ones, that's how it's always been.

It's a fantasy story. About magic. Not everything's going to make sense.

Oh look. Your source is a blog.

Anyway, have you even read the books? The question of Harry escaping Voldemort time and time again is due to almost sheer luck. He's never "beaten" Voldemort through elementary uses of magic. There's always been an outside force. Voldemorts inability to touch Harry for one. The connection between the two wands, for another. As for Voldemorts failure to kill Harry, if you know ANYTHING about Harry Potter at all, you'd know that it was because Harry's mom (mum) died for him and that's the only reason Harry was left alive and bearing that scar. Seriously, you've never read the books have you?

I don't think the movies are very good in comparision to the books. Or at least, the first few movies haven't been. And the screenwriter for the movies IS NOT J.K. Rowling. So if you're gonna make jabs at the movie script, might as well make jabs at the right people.

I always thought HP ripped on LoTR a bit, to be honest. I saw...parallels between the whole idea of a dark lord (y'know, Voldemort-Sauron/Morgoth yadda yadda) and then the second book; the spider thing. I was really outraged about that at first :p It seemed like a blatant Shelob rip-off to me.

The Harry Potter movies are pretty rubbish imho, but the books are entertaining and I don't see why everything has to make perfect sense. They're interesting, good for 'em, eh.

people tend to not think of this sorta thing, but hey, i like the whole hp stuff, so i would say that (i dnt think i know what the hell im talking about)

Harry HAS grown as a wizard over the course of the series. Up to the point of the end of book 6, he's learned quite a few more spells than when he just started out, some of which can inflict quite a bit of damage on other people, and as Miriel has pointed out, he's never just flat out beaten Voldemort in their encounters, but oftentimes has escaped by the skin of his teeth or through the help of other people or animals.

As for the film concept, you have to be fair: a movie is at most 2 and a half hours long whilst a book can be hundreds, even thousands of pages filled with intricate details which make it unique and more specific. I for one think that the third film, Prisoner Of Azkaban, was a masterpiece, though a lot of it goes to the genius that directed it and the amazing visual looks he added to it, but overall, I think the movies have done a fair enough job of giving the Harry Potter story a visual, if modest representation. They'll never be able to replace the books, and I recommend judging the series by the novels, NOT just by the films.


On a side note, there is a long-held belief in some circles that there are really only 7 story 'types' and everything subsequently is an off-shoot of that with different characters, settings, etc. I'm not a big believer in this, but it might help explain why some people feel like they're seeing the same story over and over again.


Take care all.

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Originally Posted by Miriel

Oh look. Your source is a blog.

Anyway, have you even read the books? The question of Harry escaping Voldemort time and time again is due to almost sheer luck. He's never "beaten" Voldemort through elementary uses of magic. There's always been an outside force. Voldemorts inability to touch Harry for one. The connection between the two wands, for another. As for Voldemorts failure to kill Harry, if you know ANYTHING about Harry Potter at all, you'd know that it was because Harry's mom (mum) died for him and that's the only reason Harry was left alive and bearing that scar. Seriously, you've never read the books have you?

I don't think the movies are very good in comparision to the books. Or at least, the first few movies haven't been. And the screenwriter for the movies IS NOT J.K. Rowling. So if you're gonna make jabs at the movie script, might as well make jabs at the right people.

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Ha ha you killed him! seriously though you try to bash something that you don't know anything about.

You could dislike anything analyzed this much. If you can't accept that Harry can save the day as a teenager, how on earth do you accept Final Fantasy plotlines :(

As for the it rips off other plotlines or is the same plot over and over...Eh, I don't think so :p I rather love the Harry Potter plots :jess: In the books, it all fits together rather nicely.

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Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke

Another point that doesnt make sense is how in the first book when they had to pick a potion to go through the fire why there was a potion still there when voldemort had already gone through, you'd think it would have already been used.

But people tend to use ideas over and over. Its done with lots of films and books.

And if theres anything you cant explain. A wizard did it

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It's stated pretty explicitly in SS/PS that there was very little of the potion left because somebody had already drank it.

Well, for the series, having 6/7ths of it, its going to sell for more than i paid as a unit than individually one day

I liked the series when i was about 10, but now im not that into it, but ill read the newest one for reason above ^ ^

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Seriously, you've never read the books have you?

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Bingo! :love:

Uh...I don't think HP is like Star Wars at all. xD What a silly idea. The only remote similarity is the good vs. evil concept, but that's a common theme in many works of fiction.

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Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke

Another point that doesnt make sense is how in the first book when they had to pick a potion to go through the fire why there was a potion still there when voldemort had already gone through, you'd think it would have already been used.

But people tend to use ideas over and over. Its done with lots of films and books.

And if theres anything you cant explain. A wizard did it

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It's stated pretty explicitly in SS/PS that there was very little of the potion left because somebody had already drank it.

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Then it would be assumed that rather than going through the whole logic process it would be easier to just drink the potion that had already been drunken out of.

There's only like three stories that anyone's ever told ever anyway so meh.