FFIX Mafia - Discussion thread

Hello friends! Following the lovely fun in Karifean's Mafia game a lot of people wanted another one. Like, right away. If you don't know what mafia is, it's a fun forum game. Check out this to explain it: http://mikeburnfire.deviantart.com/a...orial-31409818

I am looking for seven people to play, it will be an open set up:

• 1 Mafia Goon
• 1 Mafia Roleblocker
• 1 Sane Cop
• 1 Doctor
• 3 Townies

We will use alt accounts and there will be a theme. I have three in mind! Please score them in order of your preference when you sign up!

1. Final Fantasy IX
2. Pokemon
3. Game of Thrones

Players:

1. Scruffington
2. Fynn
3. Fox
4. FFNut
5. Karifean
6. Formalhaut
7. Mr. Carnelian

MEMEMEMEME

1. Pokemon
2. FFIX
3. Game of Thrones

I want in!

1. Pokémon
2. FFIX
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3. GoT

I realised that for some reason a lot of EoFF mafia regulars love FFIX the most.

I must atone for my failures.

1. FFIX
2. Pokemon
785. GoT

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

I realised that for some reason a lot of EoFF mafia regulars love FFIX the most.

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Tell that to that infidel, Formy

He was the exact reason I decided to go for IX, yes. :greenie:

But I also think there's a lot of fun characters to roleplay.

I think it might actually be best if Mafia got a sub-forum.

And there could possibly be a sign-up list for people wanting to host bigger games.

If Pokémon wins, will we have to communicate exclusively using Pokémon Speak?

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Originally Posted by Scruffington

I think it might actually be best if Mafia got a sub-forum.

And there could possibly be a sign-up list for people wanting to host bigger games.

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Balls to it, let's do it. RANDOM SUBFORUM INCOMING

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

He was the exact reason I decided to go for IX, yes. :greenie:

But I also think there's a lot of fun characters to roleplay.

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Or:do X and force Fynn to be Tidus

I am in! I'll play any role needed.

This may or may not be the Pokemon forum. :greenie:

I was about to say we may need to de-forum the poke-forum anyway

Oh I'm certainly in. If there's one thing that sucks about hosting Mafia it's that you can't play.

Bring it on.

1. FFIX
2. GoT
3. Pokémon

Two birds, one convenient mafia sized stone. Also known as putting off the task of deleting the spare forum until another day.

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Originally Posted by Karifean

Oh I'm certainly in. If there's one thing that sucks about hosting Mafia it's that you can't play.

Bring it on.

1. FFIX
2. GoT
3. Pokémon

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I'm hosting the next one so I'll get to see what you mean :D

Vote count is presently:
FFIX: 10
Pokemon: 9
GoT: 5

Myself and Mr. Carny are happy to play! I confirmed it with him.

Then that's our seven!

Would you chaps care to have any say on the theme?

You better pick FF IX

I will vote FFIX. Let's go Zidane.

You guys better pick Pokémon.

##Vote: Fynn

Sorry I did IX Fynn. Will pick Pokemon next time.

Mr. Carny says Pokemon, but he said he really isn't all that bothered (put him down as Pokemon, for the sake of simplicity)

I'll say FFIX, because why not?

Rude

PLAYERS - 7
VOTES FOR FFIX - 10

Seems legit

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Originally Posted by Formalhaut

Mr. Carny says Pokemon, but he said he really isn't all that bothered (put him down as Pokemon, for the sake of simplicity)

I'll say FFIX, because why not?

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Because I will smurfing murder you

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Originally Posted by Fox

PLAYERS - 7
VOTES FOR FFIX - 10

Seems legit

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FIX!

Some of the emails on the mafia accounts are cracking me up. One of them is psychoticisagiantpotatomonster@eyesonff.com

How and why is that a thing? :lol:

Also IX it is.

I'm just excited to play again!

The only downside to alt accounts is I'm gonna have to sign out of my main account and I haven't typed my password in two years

You're dead, Forms

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Originally Posted by Fox

The only downside to alt accounts is I'm gonna have to sign out of my main account and I haven't typed my password in two years

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You could just get it changed :p With alt accounts, I'm going to have to remember not to post with my main account!

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The only downside to alt accounts is I'm gonna have to sign out of my main account and I haven't typed my password in two years

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In-private browsing yo. It's how I juggle two reddit accounts.

Btw, how many mafia accounts do we have? Technically a Danganronpa game always has 16 characters, so it'd be cool to preserve that. A big-ass mafia game

I will just open a new browser and input the password in that one. It works.

You people are weak.

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Originally Posted by Fox

The only downside to alt accounts is I'm gonna have to sign out of my main account and I haven't typed my password in two years

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I use Chrome to log in with my mafia account!

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Originally Posted by Formalhaut

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Originally Posted by Fox

The only downside to alt accounts is I'm gonna have to sign out of my main account and I haven't typed my password in two years

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You could just get it changed :p

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*clicks 'Change Password'*
"Please Enter Your Old Password"

OH WELL

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Originally Posted by Karifean

In-private browsing yo. It's how I juggle two reddit accounts

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Oooh, good thinking! Treat it like an NSFW throwaway, gotcha

Has Fynn developed a split personality, or is that just me?

I'm just really good at gas lighting, Formy. I always have been.

My new Strategy for mafia will be "kill all the people who I know are good mafia" and then take it from there. So Fynn and Scruff are gone day 1.

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Originally Posted by Fynn

I'm just really good at gas lighting, Formy. I always have been.

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That's a side I've never seen before. I'm not sure I like it :p I've never been good at braggadocio.

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Originally Posted by Fox

My new Strategy for mafia will be "kill all the people who I know are good mafia" and then take it from there. So Fynn and Scruff are gone day 1.

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Too bad you won't know who's who :roll:

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Originally Posted by Fox

My new Strategy for mafia will be "kill all the people who I know are good mafia" and then take it from there. So Fynn and Scruff are gone day 1.

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Too bad you won't know who's who :roll:

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​look for the smug one

Smug?! Little old me?!

So I'm the only one nobody's seen play Mafia yet. And yet I've seen all of you play.

:smug:

Fynn since FFNut was killed until now:

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Originally Posted by Fox

My new Strategy for mafia will be "kill all the people who I know are good mafia" and then take it from there. So Fynn and Scruff are gone day 1.

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What if I'm an even better town? :P

Accounts set up

[M] Beatrix
[M] Eiko
[M] Kuja
[M] Quina
[M] Steiner
[M] Vivi
[M] Zidane

You'll be PMed the details soon. Remember not to tell anyone your identity!

I will be better this time. Learned from my mistakes and will cash in from that.

No Amarant? For shame

Just FYI, if I end up as Quina I'm playing him as Ignis. Smurfin', new yummy recipes all over the place with a side of murder, possibly.

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Originally Posted by Fynn

No Amarant? For shame

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Who?

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Originally Posted by Formalhaut

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Originally Posted by Fynn

No Amarant? For shame

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Who?

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Get out

I'm joking, I know who he is. He's that rather inconsequential red-haired man who you pick up towards the end of the game in FFIX.

I've not played the game yet, so that's all I know. :p

This will be fun to watch!

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Originally Posted by Fox

My new Strategy for mafia will be "kill all the people who I know are good mafia" and then take it from there. So Fynn and Scruff are gone day 1.

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Too bad you won't know who's who :roll:

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That's half the fun of alt accounts, trying to guess who's playing who!

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He's that rather inconsequential red-haired man

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What the hell did you just say about me?

PMs are coming out now!

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[M] Freya was an Unfortunate Dragoon played by Freya!

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##Vote: Psychotic

:colbert:

A valiant sacrifice o7

Oooooh this is so exciting!

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

Two birds, one convenient mafia sized stone. Also known as putting off the task of deleting the spare forum until another day.

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classic eoff staff goof

What the heck, I didn't even have time to sign up :onoes:

Blame Psy for only allowing 7 people in ^^

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Originally Posted by Pumpkin

What the heck, I didn't even have time to sign up :onoes:

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People were... um, really eager, huh. I promise you'll get in on the next game, though! We should reserve Pumpkin a space.

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[M] Freya was an Unfortunate Dragoon played by Freya!

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##Vote: Psychotic

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Don't worry. I'm sure nobody will just up and kill off the most lovable characters.

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:stare:

No, I'm salty now. You all JUST got to play and IX is my fav game but I missed it because I wasn't online for an hour and a half.

Pumpkin = salty

This is a basic quick game, C9 I think they call it over on Mafia Scum. 7 players!

This'll be over by the weekend, I think.

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[M] Freya was an Unfortunate Dragoon played by Freya!

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##Vote: Psychotic

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It was too perfect :)

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Originally Posted by Pumpkin

What the heck, I didn't even have time to sign up :onoes:

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I'm sorry :( If anyone drops out you can replace!

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Originally Posted by Shauna

This is a basic quick game, C9 I think they call it over on Mafia Scum. 7 players!

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Indeed. It's actually a slight variant on that I found on their wiki!

Guys


GUYS

You should just vote REDACTED, it's clear that they are obviously scum.

Well, things are pretty intense, it looks like

I know, right! Sarcasm, snark, tension, it's all kicking off. Where's the popcorn?

I wonder if having the secondary accounts means people are less likely to hold back? An interesting phenomenon.

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

I wonder if having the secondary accounts means people are less likely to hold back? An interesting phenomenon.

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That could very well be the case. It's easier having a 'heated' discussion to a pretend person than someone you know.

There's that, but also having a heated discussion as a pretend person.

Ah now that was an unfortunate mistake. Oh well, I'll keep quiet about it in case other people didn't notice.

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Originally Posted by Karifean

Ah now that was an unfortunate mistake. Oh well, I'll keep quiet about it in case other people didn't notice.

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I'm certainly willing to pretend I didn't notice ^^;

What does that mean :crying:

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Originally Posted by Formalhaut

What does that mean :crying:

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Someone accidentally posted with their real account. It's a shame but believe you me it's not the first time it's happened (I've done it half a dozen times!) and it won't be the last. Not the end of the world.

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What does that mean :crying:

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Someone accidentally posted with their real account. It's a shame but believe you me it's not the first time it's happened (I've done it half a dozen times!) and it won't be the last. Not the end of the world.

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I actually did that this game. ^^;

But I noticed the mistake literally straight-away and deleted it immediately. I hope no-one saw it. Pretty sure I've done that like once per Mafia game. Pretty sure staff can see it though.

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What does that mean :crying:

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Someone accidentally posted with their real account. It's a shame but believe you me it's not the first time it's happened (I've done it half a dozen times!) and it won't be the last. Not the end of the world.

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I actually did that this game. ^^;

But I noticed the mistake literally straight-away and deleted it immediately. I hope no-one saw it. Pretty sure I've done that like once per Mafia game. Pretty sure staff can see it though.

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I saw it just before you deleted it :p

I don't like having to use secondary accounts. Having to switch between my real account and game account in 2 separate windows is tedious and annoying.

It's also incredibly stupid that you HAVE to include a deletion message in order to have a post deleted. I clicked the "delete message" button immediately after I posted with my real account, and it didn't delete the post until I tried it again with a message included.

Really stupid.

Regular peeps can't see the message anyway. The message is for us staff :)

I don't think you have to include a deletion message? I didn't have to. I can agree it can be annoying, but you'll get used to it if you've never used alternate accounts before.

Also Fynn, NOOOOO. How dare you be so active!

You know me


Finding new and ever more creative ways to torment you psychologically

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Originally Posted by Fynn

Regular peeps can't see the message anyway. The message is for us staff :)

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That's not really fair. You could easily hop onto your staff account and see any accidentally deleted messages in-game, thus giving you a huge advantage and more information than a regular user would have access to.

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Originally Posted by Formalhaut

I don't think you have to include a deletion message? I didn't have to. I can agree it can be annoying, but you'll get used to it if you've never used alternate accounts before.

Also Fynn, NOOOOO. How dare you be so active!

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I had to. I tried deleting the message at least twice before it worked after adding a message on the third attempt.

I suggest people repost what they wanted to post with their mafia account and I'll merge the posts. That way the original will be gone and Fynn won't be able to see it either.

If it helps any, at this very early stage in the game, no-one can really infer anything from it, if at all.

Don't worry though. I didn't see anything. Just because I have the power to do something doesn't mean I'd use it. I value a fair game far more than winning.

I have now permadeleted any deleted posts in the thread so no-one can see them. I'll continue to do that throughout.

It's my mistake for posting with the wrong account in this game.

Although I still do think that staff have an unfair advantage in these games when it comes to deleted posts.

I'm just kinda frustrated. Oh well, nothing I can really do about it now.

I like not imposing a time limit at the start and just seeing how it goes.

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

I like not imposing a time limit at the start and just seeing how it goes.

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Yeah. I'm in favour of variable day lengths. My plan for this game is to let it flow if people are getting into it and there's a good discussion happening, but then if it seems to have dried up I'll start putting some deadlines up. It'd be great if everyone was online at once as then a short day would be perfect.

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

I like not imposing a time limit at the start and just seeing how it goes.

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There's definitely a few directions you can go in when it comes to time limits.

In Town of Salem when a player reaches a majority of the votes, they are put on trial and all of the players must vote "Guilty" or "Innocent" after they have a period of time to defend themselves.

That's a concept I would love to see here but it would be really hard to implement on a forum.

Most of the time the Day Phase just lasts 24-48 hours and ends when the time is up regardless of the votes.

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I like not imposing a time limit at the start and just seeing how it goes.

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Yeah. I'm in favour of variable day lengths. My plan for this game is to let it flow if people are getting into it and there's a good discussion happening, but then if it seems to have dried up I'll start putting some deadlines up. It'd be great if everyone was online at once as then a short day would be perfect.

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Them pesky time zones!

Funnily enough, a 'Town of Salem' style concept is what I'd do for an Ace Attorney themed game, with a trial period.

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I like not imposing a time limit at the start and just seeing how it goes.

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Yeah. I'm in favour of variable day lengths. My plan for this game is to let it flow if people are getting into it and there's a good discussion happening, but then if it seems to have dried up I'll start putting some deadlines up. It'd be great if everyone was online at once as then a short day would be perfect.

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Them pesky time zones!

Funnily enough, a 'Town of Salem' style concept is what I'd do for an Ace Attorney themed game, with a trial period.

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I think it could work. Just have to sort out the details.

I could see it working if a player gets put on trial after reaching a majority of votes. Then they would have one post to defend themselves. After this post, the remaining players have a period of time to deliberate and submit their votes.

There do need to be time limits on the post and the votes. Maybe an hour or two to submit a post, and another hour or two to vote/discuss the defense.

Just a tip for people to help manage both accounts. I have my Mafia account logged in on my phone, and my Nutty account logged in on my iPad. Just will help from outing yourself.

You could also do it with two different browsers. I always used IE for the mafia account.

My laptop is down at the moment due to a screen crack so I am confined to a iPad, and my phone.

A mafia excuse if I ever heard one.

##Vote: FFNut

Hey, I'm still playing and not dead in this one yet.

This is going so well, you guys

RIP, my friend. You were too beautiful to die so young.

They all just jealous


Rooting for the mafia from now on, btw.

But if town wins you still win!

A town that chews me out for a really valid point and i'm impressed by your thinking. reason is no town of mine

This is the kind of thinking that let Trump into the White House young man. :colbert: DO YOUR PATRIOTIC TOWN DUTY

No :doublecolbert:

Fair enough.

In the meantime, relevant:

http://i.imgur.com/rBxVsWo.png

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

Fair enough.

In the meantime, relevant:

http://i.imgur.com/rBxVsWo.png

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That is so

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...77/036/934.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EWeiuXx.jpg

Actually, EoFF RN:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps2ze3okdt.png

Mafia? *takes a drag* Haven't played that game in years.

I think the days should always be set up to end at a time where everyone is likely to be awake. When Day 1 ended it was before 7AM on the East Coast. We're all Europe and US, right? So 8 or 9PM GMT would probably be good for everyone.

Yeah I can get behind that. I still am clinging to my idea of having a day done in just a few hours though!

Well damn, that day escalated fast.

I didn't expect Beatrix to be Fynn. He was all over the place looking through the text.

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Originally Posted by FFNut

He was all over the place looking through the text.

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http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/11/OohBurn.gif

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He was all over the place looking through the text.

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http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/11/OohBurn.gif

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How is that a burn?

Man Fynn just got roasted. And there's no burn centres are available in Poland.

Can we have a time check on the Night? Are we leaving it a couple more hours, Psy?

Just waiting for all night actions to come in. :)

I'm excited to get the day moving! Want to know what happend in the night, and have a few guesses on a few people. Just don't know their alignment yet.

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Just waiting for all night actions to come in. :)

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Oh, so it's based on night actions as opposed to time? I'm good with this. The night doesn't need to be longer than necessary, to be honest.

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I'm excited to get the day moving! Want to know what happend in the night, and have a few guesses on a few people. Just don't know their alignment yet.

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I don't want to discuss much outside of the game thread (especially as I'm still playing), but I agree: what happens in the night will definitely affect conversation. Everyone likes a good murder to discuss. Who is killed will undoubtedly affect things as well.

I agree. Once all actions are in it just holds up the game if it doesn't move along.

I share your excitement though! Can't wait to get stuck in again! :jess:

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Just waiting for all night actions to come in. :)

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Oh, so it's based on night actions as opposed to time? I'm good with this. The night doesn't need to be longer than necessary, to be honest.

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Yes, although I also like to leave a little gap after I get them all to type up flavour and whatnot. So maybe we're in that gap now! Or not! Who knows ;)

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Just waiting for all night actions to come in. :)

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Oh, so it's based on night actions as opposed to time? I'm good with this. The night doesn't need to be longer than necessary, to be honest.

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Yes, although I also like to leave a little gap after I get them all to type up flavour and whatnot. So maybe we're in that gap now! Or not! Who knows ;)

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Don't play with my heart like this!

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Just waiting for all night actions to come in. :)

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Oh, so it's based on night actions as opposed to time? I'm good with this. The night doesn't need to be longer than necessary, to be honest.

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Yes, although I also like to leave a little gap after I get them all to type up flavour and whatnot. So maybe we're in that gap now! Or not! Who knows ;)

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http://i.imgur.com/QFUy59s.gif

I'd be ok with being in the gap. People knowing they will wake up and their will be a Lynch will log in right away and check things out. It was the first thing I did when I woke up today.

The first thing I did when I woke up was log in and find out the Day was already over. :crying2:

I'm enjoying the gap, jokes aside. It's giving me time to clean the house!of the bloody evidence...

The day ended at 3:56am for me here in Canada. It could be others in NA are still sleeping.

Okay so if we haven't had all night actions in within the next hour or so I'll randomly select someone with a dice (how useful that there are six of you left!) for each action. Sorry, but we do want this to be going again before tomorrow in most people's timezones.

I'm ok with the dice roll. If it gets us moving forward I'm in.

I think I cracked this Mafia case. Thinking about it the only night action that needs to happen is a kill. If the doctor doesn't decide to save someone or investigators chose not to investigate it wouldn't hold the game up. They may chose not to to hold their identity a secret. Won't say who my character is as I do not wish to be their next or current target as their is time before the randomness happens, but if my thoughts are true I know either both Mafia's, or I am way off.

My knowledge of night actions isn't the best seeing how I haven't played as one since forever, but you can choose to just, not, perform your action? So a Doctor can choose not to protect, a Detective to not investigate. By that logic, does a kill even have to happen? Not sure why they wouldn't happen, but who knows.

Even if an action doesn't need to happen, I'd assume you still have to PM Psychotic with the information that you don't use your action. I doubt he'd randomly cut the night short and take away anyone's right to use their night ability if they just happened to not be around in time.

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Even if an action doesn't need to happen, I'd assume you still have to PM Psychotic with the information that you don't use your action. I doubt he'd randomly cut the night short and take away anyone's right to use their night ability if they just happened to not be around in time.

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I'd assume the same: it's just courtesy to tell the host you intend to do nothing.

Hmm maybe I am already thinking to hard with this.

We are one minute away from a dice roll... Fingers crossed we wake up!

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I think I cracked this Mafia case. Thinking about it the only night action that needs to happen is a kill. If the doctor doesn't decide to save someone or investigators chose not to investigate it wouldn't hold the game up. They may chose not to to hold their identity a secret. Won't say who my character is as I do not wish to be their next or current target as their is time before the randomness happens, but if my thoughts are true I know either both Mafia's, or I am way off.

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Yeah don't think like that. :p

Me: Hey Mr. Carny, you died in the night.

Him: What?

Me: You were lynched in Mafia.

Him: WHAT?!?!

Me: Yeah.

He wasn't lynched, he was murdered! Lynches are JUSTICE. This was no justice. 'twas murder most foul!

I wonder if it was a dice roll, or if it was a planed kill. Don't know why they would plan it as Kuja had some heat on him early. I would have waited to see if it continued on in day 2.

Wrong thread for that line of thinking ;)

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He wasn't lynched, he was murdered! Lynches are JUSTICE. This was no justice. 'twas murder most foul!

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I'd say the same happened during the day one lynching.


Good luck guys. Not that it'll do you any good it looks like :monster:

We will avenge both you and Mr. Carny day 2! This I will do my best to do.

Still Eiko, Quina and Vivi. Where's Zidane and Steiner, I wonder?

Don't worry on that account, inactive players will be replaced. If anyone does want to replace in then do let me know!

I think we need more rigid and clearly defined time limits. At the moment some players aren't active and those who are don't want to make any guesses or vote to lynch someone because they have no information and the only thing any action does is make them look suspicious. I want to go to bed shortly but I dunno if the phase will still be going when I wake up, so I'll probably just cast a random vote and hope that it doesn't bite me while I'm sleeping.

I agree with Fox. At the moment we are at a random vote phase.

I hear you! Day 2 will last 24 hours, so don't worry about going to bed anybody! If I do any replacements we may extend the day to give the newcomer/s a chance so we'll be past the weekend but hey ho. Hopefully it won't come to that.

The discussion is kinda reaching an impasse. There's only so much discussion as one can squeeze out.

I really don't think it's cool that a host decides to implement or enforce rules on a whim.

Day Phase 1 came to an end after the host randomly felt like setting a time limit of 12 hours after previously stating that there was no real limit. I was only given less than 8 hours for Night Phase 1 (of which there was no indication how long it would last), and now Day 2 has a time limit of 24 hours.

I also got booted from the game without any forewarning. This game has absolutely no consistency.

What the hell?

I did PM you about this but perhaps you haven't seen it.

I thought I had made it clear that I was looking to host a short, weekend game, and I've also made it clear that time limits would be variable depending on the flow of the game. If I hadn't made that clear and you didn't know what you were signing up for, I am sorry.

Before I replaced you, I was watching you because I was desperate for you to participate. I had watched out for you all day and had even checked your post history to see when you'd be likely to be online. You were online, viewed the threads several times, but did not post. After several hours of that and having publicly mentioned I was considering replacements, I made the call.

If you didn't have time or were busy, that's cool. Mafia doesn't run anyone's life. But if someone is absent for a prolonged period it doesn't fit into quick intense experience I am going for either. In a longer game with more players I'd have just let it slide but in a short, small game like this, we can't really afford absences or long delays. I have a responsibility to all of the other players who have committed their time and energy - I don't want it to be ruined for them.

I apologised for this in the PM I sent you but I'm more than happy to do this again. I'm sorry that the experience didn't match your expectations and that it's sucked for you. I hope there are no hard feelings.

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I did PM you about this but perhaps you haven't seen it.

I thought I had made it clear that I was looking to host a short, weekend game, and I've also made it clear that time limits would be variable depending on the flow of the game. If I hadn't made that clear and you didn't know what you were signing up for, I am sorry.

Before I replaced you, I was watching you because I was desperate for you to participate. I had watched out for you all day and had even checked your post history to see when you'd be likely to be online. You were online, viewed the threads several times, but did not post. After several hours of that and having publicly mentioned I was considering replacements, I made the call.

If you didn't have time or were busy, that's cool. Mafia doesn't run anyone's life. But if someone is absent for a prolonged period it doesn't fit into quick intense experience I am going for either. In a longer game with more players I'd have just let it slide but in a short, small game like this, we can't really afford absences or long delays. I have a responsibility to all of the other players who have committed their time and energy - I don't want it to be ruined for them.

I apologised for this in the PM I sent you but I'm more than happy to do this again. I'm sorry that the experience didn't match your expectations and that it's sucked for you. I hope there are no hard feelings.

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The sign-up thread had no indication that it was a "weekend" or "short" game. It was only shown to be a smaller game since there was a 7 player limit.

I was actually the one driving -- or attempting to drive -- the discussion in Day 1. Most players were inactive ASIDE from me, but I still attempted to create conversation as best as I could. I decided to go to bed really late before the Day Phase ended since no one else was posting, and as it turns out, the Night Phase both started and ended before I even woke up. I never actually checked the Mafia thread until I had already been kicked.

To you, a "long absence" was literally 5 hours of not posting. This is despite the fact that several other players were "absent" for far longer than I was during the first day.

I don't have anything against you, haha. Or anyone for that matter. Mafia is just a game and it's intended to be a fun/thought provoking experience for everyone. I'm just kind of annoyed at the lack of information regarding rules, inconsistency, and seeming double-standard of "absence."

Snap, Day Two is heating up now!

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I think you mean to say its getting fun.

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I think you mean to say its getting fun.

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You're not an EoFFer!

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I think you mean to say its getting fun.

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You're not an EoFFer!

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Love you too Formy <3

Aww, thanks, Steiner! :D

This has been a great day full of drama and tension. Even I don't know who is mafia anymore!

Well smurf.

For the first time in two games, some good news!

Finally town Catches a break!

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You did well, Karifean. Truly, I wasn't expecting a claim!

I was so uncertain which way Vivi (whose identity I'm pretty sure of, but won't say directly) would swing. Oh, the tension!

Nearly got all night actions, we can resume very shortly if you guys want!

I'm good to begin whenever

I don't even know if I'd played any differently at all had I been the actual cop and done the actions Zidane-me said he did ^^;

I'm good for when ever is needed Phy.

Good luck town, you can do this! Also remember to delete any messages from the account. The Steiner account had a lot in there from old games. :p

That'd be great! If you all could delete them at the end of the game (don't forget your sent items too!) I'd be grateful. :)

Holy sweet Kuja this is tense

I absolutely love that it's come down to this.

Wow that double cop claiming was intense!

It was very intense.

It is a Sunday night and I have work on the morrow so unfortunately bedtime for me. But I don't mind sacrificing the dramatic reveal. So if Eiko makes the call and votes while I'm asleep that'll be that, and in that case (and only in that case ;)) feel free to reveal your true roles! Or if Eiko does it tomorrow then obviously I shall give the verdict.

*worlds longest drumroll continues*

Yes it does. I've been checking every 5 minutes.

There, I've posted. Sorry, but it took me like, two-three hours writing that. ^^;

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Oh for goodness sake. CAN I NEVER WIN ANYTHING?

Aha.

AHAHAHA!

KEIKAKU TOORI!!!

Sweet, sweet, Mafia victory. Well played everyone! xD

Well played, Mafia. But god damn. Quina didn't particularly set off many red flags. I laid out all my thinking. I'm trying to figure out where I went wrong.

And why is it always me who ends up ruining things :crying:

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Shoulda just let Quina die the previous day, man :P

Lol I trusted you because you were the only one I was sure was town after day 2. I was Vanillia town. No power so Me not knowing if Zidane or Quina was Mafia, which ended up being both I hopped on the wagon simply so two town votes at least would go that way.

When Fox killed Steiner I was even more lost as I had him 100% Mafia and not our Dr.

You're not helping! Second Mafia game in a row and it's my fault!

Am I cursed?

No worries I have never had a Mafia night power which is why I was pushing for conversation. When Vanillia its the only info you can go on.

Why did you mention say that Zidane had a night role, Vivi/Nutty, why! That was a massively giant red flag to me!

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Well played, Mafia. But god damn. Quina didn't particularly set off many red flags. I laid out all my thinking. I'm trying to figure out where I went wrong.

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I think the theatrics with Karifean made it all possible. Before he claimed cop, things looked to be turning against both of us slightly. So when he decided to claim cop and out me as Mafia, I had an opportunity to get onto your good side. By killing off the fake cop who proved to be Mafia, that should have put me quite low on the suspect list. After he accused me, either people would believe him and I would die (in which case Eiko looks like the fake cop), or people wouldn't and he would die (in which case I look super innocent).

It seemed obvious that one of us was likely to die anyway, so we tried to make the most of it.

Your other mistake was just luck of the draw; you had already said you were suspicious of Steiner. I figured you were likely to investigate either him because of those suspicions, or me because you'd tried to investigate me before but been blocked. If you chose me it was game over, as you were basically confirmed the true cop, or if you'd investigated Vivi, killing Steiner would have been in vain. But I got lucky!

BY THE WAY KARIFEAN:

Good work sir. Good work! I did not think we could pull that off. Thank you for your hard work and for trusting me to get us over the line xD

When no one was talking Fynn being Vanillia, me too I knew he had a night move. I honestly thought Scruff was Zidane and I knew he was in and not posting. Despite for info suspicious of Zidane I let my theories out of my head. That's the worst part of no night moves is when you wait and are in game mode I anyway tunnel in on one thing and think endlessly about how and why.

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Good work sir. Good work! I did not think we could pull that off. Thank you for your hard work and for trusting me to get us over the line xD

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Good work! You were a great partner ;) Thanks for adapting to my, uh, sudden change in strategy I kind of didn't really discuss with you beforehand, heh ^^;

I had literally no luck the entire game. My Day One investigation (Quina) was blocked. My Day Two investigation was rendered irrelevant.

For a detective, I'm pretty smurfing clueless, weren't I? :(