...KH is God, and denying that is denying truth. The ultimate power source in the KHverse. Similar to the statues of FF6, but to a larger extent. Kinda like how Kefka becomes God Kefka after absorbing the statues.
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Yeah, I'll go ahead and believe the manipulative Xemnas. W/e
...but he's right. You can't just make up fanfiction like "Nobodies are made of darkness", or "Every enemy with dark powers is automatically a Heartless", or "Only the Keyblade can destroy people with dark powers" just because you refuse to believe what the game tells you.
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None of which are examples of how each were truly defeated or even "defeated by Sora."
...you have an odd definition of "defeated" because none of those enemies would have been beaten (regardless of what it was that finished them) if not for Sora.
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Strange how Vanitas (and at one point, Ansem-possessed Riku) is the only one who can wield a Keyblade.
...what the hell are you talking about?
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Obviously, Xemnas' lack of a complete being makes him less powerful even while absorbed of some of Kingdom Hearts.
No, it doesn't. As said by Nomura, he's the strongest person in the KH games.
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Otherwise, he should have been fighting Sora with another keyblade.
But he doesn't have a heart, so he can't use a Keyblade. Yet he is still the most powerful being in the KH games.
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None of those are examples of Sora defeating a powerful enemy without his Keyblade.
I misunderstood what you meant then, because I thought you were trying to assert that "the Keyblade is necessary to defeat the Org and other beings of darkness." (which is still incorrect)
Still, you can't really use this argument as a case for why Sora's power depends on the Keyblade, because by this same logic, I can make the assertion that Cloud and Squall get their power from their weapons as well, since they are never seen defeating a powerful enemy without them.
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Maleficent stated it herself the Heartless consume those who steep themselves in darkness which is exactly what each villain did.
Yeah, Riku steeped himself in darkness but never became a Heartless either. She isn't wrong, but it's just that it never happened to them. They never lost their hearts, and you've got nothing which proves that they did.
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Maleficent becoming a dragon, Jafar - a genie, and Ursula - a giant, are all Kingdom Heart's equivolent of them becoming Heartless.
...no they aren't. That's called using darkness to make yourself more powerful. Riku Dark Mode and Anti-Form do similar things, yet they aren't turning themselves into Heartless. KH says you turn into a heartless when you lose control over the darkness, and it overpowers you and makes you lose your heart. Malef and all the other villains never lost their hearts, so they are simply complete beings that use darkness.
I also like how you took off the part where Malef said they turn into Heartless as a result of excessiveness of steeping into darkness.
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The only Disney enemies Sora could legitimately claim defeat over are Hook and Clayton... and Czernobog.
...no, Sora can legitimately claim victory over every enemy he fought. See, your claim that every enemy Sora faced that uses darkness is a Heartless is pure, 100%, fanfiction.
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Disney theme. Disney character's "strength of heart" will always outmatch available resources in other games such as VII's materia.
>declarative statement that has no proof
You've got this odd tendency of making declaratory statements as if they were fact, yet you almost never give explanation or proof behind anything you say.
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Sora is a kid. Having a strong heart is not the same as having superhuman abilities.
He gained these superhuman abilities as a result of growth due to his experiences, like how all FF characters get stronger as a result of their experiences as well. In fact, he even got his abilities taken away from him at the start of CoM while he still had the Keyblade, but he still grew and became stronger.
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He certainly didn't have these abilities before obtaining the Keyblade.
Yeah, and he didn't have these abilities before he started wearing a silver crown necklace either. :eep:
The problem is, you still can't prove that the Keyblade was the cause of his abilities, and not the result of his growth along his journey.
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Without hearts, Organization XIII were incapable of defeating Sora.
...no. They were beaten because Sora was just plain better than them. Several strong beings were beaten by an even stronger being. Plain and simple.
See, here's the problem with almost all of your statements, Mercen. You stick together two random facts into a single statement and can't prove that the first fact is the cause of the second fact. Like, at all. Here, I can do it as well:
"Cloud has spikey blond hair, which is why he was able to defeat all of his enemies in FF7."
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Even having absorbed some of Kingdom Hearts, Xemnas is not all-powerful while still missing his own heart.
No, Xemnas lost because Sora and Riku's teamwork > ALL.
Him not having a heart doesn't mean anything. He was still the most powerful being without it, and he became God when he absorbed KH. This is exactly what I meant before when I said that you pretend that the power of the heart is the only form of power in the KHverse.
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In fact, he even got his abilities taken away from him at the start of CoM while he still had the Keyblade, but he still grew and became stronger.
Assuming that the Keyblade was the source of his power, like many are trying to say, then he should've still had his KH1 powers because the source (the Keyblade) was still there. But he didn't, meaning that it was not the Keyblade that was supplying him with powers.
