If the Steam Box isn't renamed the Sauna, I'm not interested in hearing about it.
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If the Steam Box isn't renamed the Sauna, I'm not interested in hearing about it.
Epic Fail Micro$oft.
Talk about taking ONE step backwards, ONE step in the wrong direction.
Looks like I'm going to be dusting off my old PlayStation this gen and re-play some old PSone games like Croc.
Xbox One to perform online checks every 24 hours, every hour if playing on separate console | Polygon
Oh, well thank Christ. I can still watch live TV. Crisis averted.Quote:
Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies
I always wanted to try Croc.Quote:
Originally Posted by maybee
It gets better: Xbox WireQuote:
Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill
Companies have been doing this for years and requiring every Xbone owner to have a broadband connection isn't what allows them to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Microsoft
Didn't Sony also announce something like this? But they aren't trying to tell people this is worth requiring your customers to have a broadband connection?Quote:
Originally Posted by Microsoft
What they aren't saying here is that you can only play your games from any Xbox One for an hour. Then they boot you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Microsoft
I can already do this on PC and, to some extent, my PS3 as well. But I'm supposed to believe this justifies requiring a broadband connection to use my console?Quote:
Originally Posted by Microsoft
I could go on, but suffice it to say the bulltrout marketing machine that tries to tell you to just relax and enjoy it while they smurf some people in the ass has already begun. The most baffling thing is that they would be fully aware of how many 360's they sold that have never been online. I saw Jim Sterling make reference to it in one of his videos. Can't remember the specific number but I do believe it was in the millions. That's not an insubstantial number of customers they just told to smurf off.
And for your continued reading pleasure:
How Games Licensing Works on Xbox One
Xbox Wire
My favourite from the privacy one (emphasis mine):
I wonder what their definition of explicit permission is. Probably a line buried in an EULA somewhere that you have no choice but to agree to if you want to use your online every 24 hours console, what with how those things are going these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Microsoft
It's a good game not as good as Crash or Spyro but it's good and the camera angle is a bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Depression Moon
:save: ~Done with consoles this next generation~ :save:
imo
I'm waiting for the Xbox One to turn out to be a stealthy attempt to push Windows 8 as a gaming platform at this point. I was underwhelmed by Sony's PS4 announcement, but at least they didn't seem to be doing everything possible to drive customers away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike
Meanwhile, at Xbox HQ...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-16yhdGPgWd...ngBuilding.jpg
As if I needed another reason to not be a console gamer. Thanks Microsoft.
Hmm. I did get the 1st Spyro for my PS3, but it got repetitive so I dropped it. Croc sounds like it might be worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by maybeeIt's a good game not as good as Crash or Spyro but it's good and the camera angle is a bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Depression Moon
As for the discussion at hand I can't believe all this trout about the Xbox One. it sounds like they're trying to push people away.
It still seems to me like people have more of a problem with this as a matter of principle than they actually will in practice. I really don't see how this is meaningfully different than the experience I already have on Steam (it works both ways Vivi :p) right now, which does require me to authenticate every once in a while to access my collection. However, I do think they need to clarify exactly what happens when you don't sign in for a day, and how you remedy the situation.
The launch titles they announced this week make it seem like those 15 exclusives/IPs will indeed be a lot of Kinect and small downloadable games...
Most of the games I play on Steam only need to be authenticated at the time of install. Or at least, I've been playing them for a looong time without being online at one point.
Considering this is the most blatantly anti-consumer console I've ever seen, if you don't have a problem with it, at the very least in principle, then you're probably a Microsoft employee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
At various times over the years I've been offline for 1-2 weeks when moving or changing ISP's and the like. I've also got a netbook I put Steam on to play some older titles on the go, and I could count the number of times I've had that netbook online in the last five years with one hand and still not run out of fingers. Guess what I've never had to do to play any of my Steam games? Now, if there are actually games on Steam that require me to be online every now and then to keep playing, then I have a problem with that as well. But it's not hard to see that if I've never come across this ever in my entire life that the requirements aren't nearly as stringent as requiring me to be online once every 24 hours. That sort of restriction will fundamentally lock out millions of potential customers, including people who bought a 360.Quote:
I really don't see how this is meaningfully different than the experience I already have on Steam (it works both ways Vivi :p) right now, which does require me to authenticate every once in a while to access my collection.
And don't even get me started on their basically handing publishers the keys to the kingdom on used games. And before you reply with the predictable "well you can't resell games on the PC either," that's true and that is a problem. But the difference is that companies like Valve at least recognize that really good sales benefit consumers and the industry and engage in them often. Microsoft, on the other hand, rarely discounts their digital games, even long after release when prices on other platforms have dropped significantly. And that's what they do when there's already a lot of price competition from used games and other platforms. I don't even want to think about how bad things would be with them including the ability to remove one of the major sources of price competition.
They've already stated you can't play your games until you log in again. How much more clarification do you need to recognize it's a stupid idea?Quote:
However, I do think they need to clarify exactly what happens when you don't sign in for a day, and how you remedy the situation.