The relationship between Cloud and Tifa

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Originally Posted by Moogle Molester

do you all not relize that this controversey is endless,all the faqs on the matter are either for shadowed assumed or theoryized,not to mention every ones personal opinon in the mix

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that's why this is called a debate, dearie. :tongue:

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The peaceful life made him anxious, yes. But that does not make him incompatible with Tifa, as You think, and because of this anxiousness, he starts his delivery business with his bike. He can't stand in one place for long, it makes him anxious. Does this incompatibility? No. Does this make him incompatible with Tifa? No. Does this makes Your interpretation more valid? Hell no. :P

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hell yes. :lol: Do you ever see Cloud anxious in the Flowerfield, or when he finally sees Aerith, or when Cloud and Aerith talk together in the game? Me no think so. :lol:

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No, You also got it wrong. Cloud has romantical feelings for her, but he couldn't let them out yet, and they're not evolved feelings. I never said that they're madly in love yet. It has to wait until AC.

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Not madly in love?? yet?? In AC??? sorry for all the questions, but I don't think that Cloud ever really loved Tifa, except maybe when he was a child, and they were only small feelings, just a small crush. Physical attraction. AC has already come and gone, unless I'm right. :) And from reading the plot, there are no implications whatsoever that Cloud had feelings for Tifa, hence the dubious look. :P

Hail ya'll!!!
Cloud and Tifa = "More than friends, less than lovers". Like brother n' sister. Family love (even if Tifa wants more, hehe), deep caring, yet no romance. Ubber truth, yeah.

Well, that's all for now, God (or your own personal deity) bless ya'll, peace.

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Originally Posted by Anastar

Threads like this will do nothing but put one interpretation against another interpretation. If you don't enjoy doing that, then why start a thread on it? :p

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Oh, it's fun discussing this, but I have discussed the matter for way too long now, and I got tired of it.

After I made this thread here, I went to ACF, and discussed my brains out in the LTD there, so don't expect the same discussion from me here also.

This discussion has become very tiring, thus I'm only interested in the different interpretations, without the serious discussions, because I done that in ACF.

So I won't quote anything now. :)

Oh, but I will:

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Originally Posted by *~*EnglishRose*~*

Not madly in love?? yet?? In AC???

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I messed up my sentence, I wanted to say they have to wait until "after-AC". :)

And again, dubious means:
doubtful; uncertain; skeptical; suspicious

Do not mix it up with else, the scene, where Cloud wake up for the question, is most certainly uncertainity, because he was asleep.

Interpretations are cool, unluckily only one is correct, and the others are doomed to be busted.

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Originally Posted by Dante Obscuri

Interpretations are cool, unluckily only one is correct, and the others are doomed to be busted.

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Well, no. :)
SE stated that they made the movie, so all of the fans will be pleased, and the movie can be interpreted differently. That's why they do not give any concrete proof dor either pairings.

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Originally Posted by Pivi

Well, no. :)
SE stated that they made the movie, so all of the fans will be pleased, and the movie can be interpreted differently. That's why they do not give any concrete proof dor either pairings.

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Actually, I'm correct. :greenie: Nomura himself said that nothing was left un-answered, everything had an answer (maybe another member in here has read that as well, and can back me up, with a quote on it). All you have to do, is to dig in, therefore you'll have an interpretation, wether it is correct or not, it is an interpretation. That interpretation, can be shared with your friends or people (like you're already doing now) and see how it can be upgraded, corrected (we're human after all, we can be wrong as well, isn't it? :D ), et cetera.

Besides, they (Square-Enix people) have said that things were left to interpretation, never that things will be as fans want.

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Originally Posted by From the 3 N's interview

AC is piece of work made by Japanese people. In Hollywood movies, I think there is a tendency where the meaning of all the scenes have to be expressed clearly but, this isn't something like that. With our work, the viewer is free to decide how they interpret or enjoy it. The staff has their own answers to all the scenes in the movie such as the *angel statue that makes an appearance many times. But, even if someone who have watched it interprets it differently then that is just another answer. I guess "comparing answers" with friends is one of the ways you can enjoy the movie. I think AC is a movie that makes those who have watched it, want to talk about it with others.

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So are there any clear answers? No. Is there a "one and only" correct interpretation? Definetly not.

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Originally Posted by Pivi

So are there any clear answers? No. Is there a "one and only" correct interpretation? Definetly not.

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No dude, that's not the quote I refered to. I think I'll have to find it myself. And you're giving me the point all along, they said "left to interpretation", not left to creativity or to imagination. Things have an answer, if you don't want to accept it, then: What can I do? You can belive whatever you want, you're free to do it.

Well, even so I'll find that quote and post it, ok?

Usually when people say "left to interpretation", they mean that it's left up to each individual to decide for themselves what they believe.

And how can you say that there is an exact answer, when no answer has definate proof?

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Originally Posted by Autumn Rain

Usually when people say "left to interpretation", they mean that it's left up to each individual to decide for themselves what they believe.

And how can you say that there is an exact answer, when no answer has definate proof?

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Exactly, well said.

The movie was made this way, so everyone can interpret it differently, and thus, everyone can enjoy it:

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Originally Posted by From the 3 N's interview

But, even if someone who have watched it interprets it differently then that is just another answer.

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^ That would also have meant that Nomura/SE themselves have an interpretation...which, well, is what Dante is implying in his post I guess, the "correct" interpretation, or perhaps to term it more appropriately, "official interpretation"

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Er, can someone sum up this thread? I'm so confused by the many, many posts.

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Originally Posted by Night Strife

Er, can someone sum up this thread? I'm so confused by the many, many posts.

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Nothing special. We had a discussion about Cloud's possible future, and his love interest (Aerith, Tifa, both, neither), without a conclusion. :-)

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Originally Posted by Tomoe

^ That would also have meant that Nomura/SE themselves have an interpretation...which, well, is what Dante is implying in his post I guess, the "correct" interpretation, or perhaps to term it more appropriately, "official interpretation"

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Not really. Making it open for interpretation, is a statement that there is no correct answer. Nomura may have his own preference, but he designed the story so that it could work with everyone else's preference.

Nomura could have a thing for Tifa/Yuffie hentai that he drew himself.. That doesn't make them an official couple, just because he's writing a story about their world.

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Originally Posted by Night Strife

Er, can someone sum up this thread? I'm so confused by the many, many posts.

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There really is no way to sum up a thread like this. Sorry man.

As for what has been said on the subject of everything be reveiled, it hasn't. I haven't seen the movie myself, but I can tell from all I know that not only was anything answered in AC, Nomura himself isn't entirely sure who Cloud loves.

I want to point out the dubious look. If a woman who I didn't have a relationship with but deeply cared about, perhaps even loved, woke me up from my sleep and asked if I loved her, I would not only be a little skeptical about why she was suddenly asking, I'd be a bit confused too. Which I believe is what happened to Cloud.