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like what? shutting off the borders? build huge electric fences to stop the birds getting in? vaccinate everyone against normal flu to prevent any mutation. then vaccinate all pigs as well as they can catch human flu. then find enough tamiflu that everyone can be guranteed to be safe even though it is resistant.
only the human to human strain is resistant not the one in Europe.
it's not decided whether the one in europe is human-to human. and the human-to-human one is the only one that counts as far as the world is concerned.
Yeah I agree with Cloud. This world has gotten a lot smaller than oyu think./Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
humans always make htis dumb stupid effect.
You still think the world is big in terms of traveling, but you always think that the planet doesn't have powerful force such as waether changes and climate shifts, and yes climate shifts are very fast and very violent. Kinda like the day after tomorrow but a bit longer actually more like a few decades or centuries.,but violent yes,and yes it can happen pretty rapidly.
Anyway back on topic. The world has gotten smaller. I can fly from OKC to the UK in about 20 to 30 hours(depending on transfers and blah blah blah).
Think how long it took back when my grandpa was my age.
It took weeks man. Now think back during the roman empire.
You'll die trying to cross the atlantic back then.
Colonial period took 8 to 12 weeks
now we can travel so damn fast so epidemics can spread faster. A lot faaster than you think it is.
The H5 strain has been discovered in a dead parrot in the UK.
it has now been confirmed in croatia. feel the noose tightening?
In croatia now and I heard its been confirmed int he UK.
Don't worry Cloud you'll live unless your one of htose 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year sickly person.
i'm confused by that last statement. bird flu doesn't disciminate between sick and well, young or old. spanish flu (h1n1 as compared to h5n1) attacked young males more than any other group, probably because of the war though but this doesn't explaing spain's high rate.
the bird flu in britain is of one parrot. and all they've confirmed is that is of the h5 type virus. the n1 has not been confirmed yet. but if it is it will be very interesting. the parrot is not from asia. it is from south america. they have not reported any incidences yet. has it now gone global?
almost every place has a strain of the Bird flu.
but not human variant h5n1. that is the issue.
Did they kill the parrot that has the flu?
it died. they then culled all other birds in the area too.
I get the feeling that not many people are reading the articles I so generously found and linked for.
Regardless, I think the safety measures in place might even be enough. Probably not, but maybe. Not the treatments.... those are beyond worthless.... but the quarantine methods are nicely done, and this disease is a very quick killer. If an infection can be contained in a city for about two weeks, it'll run its course. Killing hundreds of thousands, true, but not escaping into the rest of the world.
Hopefully.
quarantines failed for the spanish flu. and containing it in a city like london isn't going to help much either.
But, fortunately enough, Avian is less rapid in its spread. Meaning it'll have less chances to find another host before it dies. And since winter temperatures VASTLY limit the speed that flu spreads, we're safe this year.... and our quarantine methods will be as good as they have ever been by next year. We LEARNED from Spanish Influenza, we'll be ready (as ready as we can be, at least).
Still, chances are, it'll escape controls. And millions upon millions will die. But, there's still hope. Pragmatism is one thing, defeatism is quite another.