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You are being a 4 year old. "Oh my god he likes a girl he must be gay! AHHHHHHHH!"Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisfffan
I could go on about how Sephiorth looks emo, but I don't. Kuja had far better rants, was stronger, and did more villianous deeds.
I love it when people completely ignore everything that's been said, come up with something that's not only irrelevant but also factually inaccurate and generally waste the time of everyone who bothered to read their post.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisfffan
He's not a cross dresser. He just happens to like dressing the way he does, since it suits him. And do you think Sephiroth is any better? He loks like any other black leather evil villain.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisfffan
YTDN, you are answering to him?! Is obvious that the guy didn't even play the game. Just ignore him.Quote:
Originally Posted by YTDN(SPOILER)Kuja was a genome created by Garland to destroy the souls on Gaia, so then Terra's souls could fill the void. Then Garland created Zidane, and Kuja got jealous, thinking he was gonna get replaced, so he threw Zidane down to Gaia. He then proceeded to wreak havoc on gaia, he destroyed Alexandria, Burmecia, Cleyra, Lindblum, and Madain Sari directly or indirectly. Then he went to get revenge on his creator for 'replacing' him, which was his goal all along, he was just looking for a strong power to destroy Garland. He found Trance, absorbed all the angry souls on the Invincible, then completely kicked Zidane's butt, and Tranced. He then killed Garland, but before he died, he told Kuja that he had a time limit on his life, and was gonna die soon, 'without ever leaving his mark on the world'. Kuja then snapped, because he believed himself to be better than everyone else, so he decided that if he, the best person in thw world, was gonna die, the rest of the world would die too. Cue large scale destruction. You calling Kuja 'just some random guy?'Quote:
Originally Posted by bleda
And if you just make fun of him for his clothes, well, he looks good in them. And you should wear what loks good on you.
If you are talking about AC Sephiroth, this is debatable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenbogo
Actually I beat the game, but I must admit I should have paid more attention if I wanted to bash Kuja. The thing about it for me I guess, is I had no prior relationship to the fellow (that is, I met him, and he was completely evil). As you've shown my dumbass, there is more to the guy, but (and I may be completely wrong on this) it all kinda stacks near the end of the game? I don't like when a super villain comes into the game evil. That being said, I didn't pay enough attention to the story to argue, I just pimped my party members.
Sephiroth, Kuja, and Kefka can all blow up the world. They all have femenine traits. The differences between them is their story. I enjoyed Kefka, but maybe that's because he was so crazy. I have to admit, story wize, he wasn't anything special. Sephiroth had an amazing story, amazing background through the whole game. Unless i'm completely missing something, Kuja kind of came in with his story late.
Thanks for the info on Kuja, I appreciate it.
Thanks. But you find out that he was there rather earlier. Garnet says at one point that he turned up at the castle on her 16th birthday, working for Queen Brahne. He also creates the black mages that go destroying places. He's shown in Burmecia in disc one, with Brahne and Beatrix, he's shown in the Treno auction talking about trying to capture Garnet, and when Garnet is captured, he puts her to sleep with his powers. So he actually comes in rather early. And he comes in evil straight away because he's doing his job to cause destruction of Gaia.Quote:
Originally Posted by bleda
I said he was a girl because I knew it would get a rise out of you! he’s a good bad guy too.
Yea and he lost, what an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by The CrystalHe did not use his full power, because he knew that he could kill Cloud with his first attack. But he didn't want to do this. He wanted to humiliate Cloud, to make him suffer. This is why he decided to have a "simple" sword fight with Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by YTDN
Rufus was the best bad guy ever. All the rest thaught they were too cool for school.
i dont think Rufus can be on the list as one of the best bad guys he gives orders to others he never dose anything himself.
Exactly, he has lots of power and he uses it to his advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisfffan
sephiroth rules hes got all the pluses, looking cool, starting of good but going bad when he sees he is just like the monsters in the reactor he turns evil. when does kuja turn evil, who the hell is he anyway, Ithink he looks as gay as is humanly or alienly possible. sephiroth has plans to rule the earth after he anhialates all living people and absorbs the lifestream to recreate everything how he wants it, what does kuja do destroy the world and then what? someone tell me because it looks like squaresoft just ran out of Ideas for a villain so they made the first gay one.
i'm glad i'm not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by duck king
In my opinion, Sephiroth is the best villian of the series. He looks awesome, is amazingly powerful, and has a great backround story. I only played FFVI a little bit, so I can't comment on Kefka. As for Kuja, I'm not gonna make childish comments about the way he dresses, but I don't think he compares with Sephi in power, story, difficulty to beat (not that Sephi's very hard), and especially not in looks.
thanks bleda, I may have spoken wrong when i said first gay villain I have just recently seen a picture of kefka and he to looks gay.
All right, I know I'm a noob, but I need to get this point across. I bought all the FF games after playing FFX way back when it came out. I then went ahead and played them in order. (of course back then, 3 wasn't available...)
And after all was said and done, the only villains who stuck out to me were Sephiroth and Kuja. That's right, the all mighty Kefka was hardly a speck in my mind. The reason for that is because Kefka played the cackling crazy bad guy well. But I never liked the crazy old clown routine no matter how powerful he got. No matter how many people he killed or how much damage he caused, he's still a crazy man in make-up.
Kuja on the other hand, now he was evil, but as others said... well... here:
Guy 1: OH NOES! IT'S KUJA!
Guy 2: Who dat beez? We almost at the end of game, and I never seen him!
Guy 1: Well, he done bad things. Like, BOOM and BAM and CRUNCH! Blow up lots of people and planets.
Guy 2: WOW! I should be scared of him, despite his utter lack of back story.
Guy 1: OH! He was built in lab, and so on... he's just pissed.
Guy 2: I guess that's a better twist than the orphanage in FF8.
Guy 1: Ha ha ha! Good one!
*Large explosion*
Guy 2: What was that noise!?
Guy 1: Kuja just blew up a whole world!
Guy 2: That makes him the best Final Fantasy villain ever right?
Guy 1: Yes, but only because we hate Sephiroth.
Guy 2: That makes sense.
But, to be fair, Kuja had some kick butt dialogue, and that gives him major points in my book.
But finally there is Sephiroth. This is the man I feared before I ever even saw him. Just a trail of blood and a sword in a mans back, that was Sephiroth. Soon, it all started leaking out. The man was an unstoppable soldier, he went mad after he found out he was an experiment, he killed the main characters loved ones. Then he goes and creates one of the most famous twists in video game history by killing Aerith. He went on to nearly destroy the world and there ya go.
So what makes a good villain? The deeds he does or me being able to hate him. See, I could care less about Kefka, and Kuja I thought was cool. But Sephiroth, I hated and feared Sephiroth, and it wasn't about beating the game anymore, it was about killing him.
If I don't hate you, then you fail as a true villain, no matter how big your body count is.