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Okay here is the rundown for those curious.
Initial group should always be: Rikku, Tidus, Auron
No exceptions.
Mob Groups
Inside Sin: Part 1
Behemoth King
Consider yourself lucky when you face one of these. It attacks with Thundara, Heave, and normal attack. Behemoth King has no area attacks so he can only take you out one at a time, giving you plenty of chances to run. Even if this guy ambushes you, you still have a chance to run, or two if Rikku is the one to survive. This is the best encounter in this area, unfortunately... It's one of the rarest encounters. If you get into a battle it will have initiative unless you get a pre-emptive strike. After it kills one person use all of your turns to run. You should make it out of this one every time, if you lose on Behemoth King well... Shame on you.
Adamantoise
This is the second best encounter you can hope for, it's semi-rare itself, but you'll almost always come away from this one alive. The good things are that it has low speed, so Rikku will always get a turn before it does (except in the case of an ambush). The bad news is that it DOES have an area move which can kill off your entire party with one turn, Earthquake. Earthquake is a pretty rare move for adamantoise, most of the time he'll just normal attack you, killing off one person allowing the rest to run. Even if you stumble on Rikku's initial run you should be able to make it out alive more often than not.
Ideally you'd want to make the entire trip only battling these two encounters, although... That would be crazy considering their rarity and the number of battles you have to go through.
Exoray x 2 + Ahriman
This is probably the best battle after King Behemoth and Adamantoise. Don't get it wrong, this battle sucks, but it's possible to live through about 50% of the time. Ahriman will always get initiative so you have to hope for two key factors.
a) Ahriman can not use his sweep attack which will kill everyone in one turn.
b) Ahriman can not kill Rikku
So basically you're hoping for his regular eye attack on Auron or Tidus, it's a throw... But it will happen about half the time. It should be noted that you CAN live even if the Ahriman does kill Rikku although it requires serious luck. OCCASIONALLY but very rarely Tidus will get a turn before both exorays have Firagaed you and you'll be able to run with him. The one thing you should know about this encounter is that you only ever get one chance to run. If all goes well, Rikku will get her turn, it's NOT always best to try and run, if you're a decent length through sin, say... at the second glowing circle or beyond you should mix two underdogs secrets for sunburst. This will overkill the entire enemy party and guarantee your progression. If you don't have Rikku's overdrive or if you've already used it in a previous exoray x 2 + ahriman battle you can swap to Yuna and summon Ifrit. These guys take a pretty long time to kill with Ifrit but it's a guaranteed win since the exorays will always heal Ifrit to full health. Just make sure you take down that pesky ahriman first.
Iron Giant x 2
This is one of the most common encounters and also one of the most common dissapointments. They seem easy to get away from sometimes which makes the fact that you'll fail about 60-70% of the time even more frusterating. They will both always have initiative and it doesn't help that you almost always fight these jerks. The things you should be hoping to avoid are as follows:
a) You don't want Iron Giant #1 to use Reaper
b) You don't want Iron Giant #1 to attack Auron
You can still live if either of these things happen, but you probably and usually won't. Reaper is a COMMON move and will kill off everyone except Auron, but if the first guy uses it, auron will be killed by the second guy, the only hope is that he uses Leaping Blade which has a very bad hit rate and will miss about 40% of the time. This is not a likely occurance, however. If the first Iron Giant attacks Auron you better HOPE that the second one doesn't use Reaper or you're all dead. It is possible that he'll attack also leaving one person left, but with how common of a move Reaper is, you'll most often die to it. I hate these guys...
Ahriman x 3
What a pain in the ass... When I see these ugly bastards fly down I want to reset my game right from the beginning, but guess what, this is ACTUALLY possible to survive, you'll survive about 5-10% of the time. Your ONLY hope in survival is that ALL three Ahriman use their regular attack, it's VERY rare for them to not use their stupid sweep move but if you manage to make it through with them attacking all three times you'll find that one member is still alive, this is because Auron can take two hits without dying. The thing is, you ALSO have to hope that Auron is not the one alive at the end, because if he is he'll most likely have confuse status from getting hit by the Ahriman's eye-laser. Good luck on these guys, I hardly ever survive their ugliness. Luckily they're not TOO common, you can probably make it the whole distance without fighting them... Or maybe only fighting them once.
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...I see... and... it's about 15 encounters... oh, crap! :eek: :eek:
Also... I don't really remember... but... once you beat Seymour... isn't there a pretty long way to go... again?
Oh, crap!
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And so ends the Final Fantasy NSGIENC challenege.
This morning I made my way through Sin and finally reached the next save point. After a few minutes of getting prepared I moved on to Seymour Omnis who will be the boss that will end this challenge. Seymour Omnis starts off with a sweep of firagas that do insane damage (2000 or so) to each member of the party, one by one he kills all three of them before anyone gets a turn. This happens every time, and I tried going in with every character, didn't make a difference.
I did a lot of things people said I wouldn't be able to do in this challenge, and I made it all the way to the end. I consider this challenge a huge success for myself even though I can now let everyone know that the NSGIENC challenge is impossible to finish. Seymour Omnis is not passable with these limitations.
If anyone still wants to attempt this challenge, know that it is definately possible to make it to where I got which is the save point before Seymour Omnis inside Sin, it is the farthest point you can make it and thus, the goal of the NSGIENC challenege. Sort of an anticlimactic goal, but hey. As for me, I think I'll customize my starting weapons and beat the game as an NSGIE challenge but this thread is always here if you need some boss strategy for NSGIE or NSGIENC. Good luck and thanks to everyone who stuck through the thread as I progressed!
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doh! :yuck: *&¤%.#... ARGH!!! ...ok, ok, ok... calm down... *deep breath*
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Seriously... isn't there ANY way? :cry: **** YOU SEYMOUR!!! :mad2:
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Nope, no way. I tried everything, oh well, I'll be glad to move onto something else.
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Just PM me if you want a new challange. ;) Or wait for the KH challang that I'll make tomorrow...
Oh, well... you got to the end... the only boss that's left after Seymour is the final boss...
But, hey!!! I got a new idea!!! You could still make this a "NSGIENC challange VS OMEGA WEAPON"! :p
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I don't want to do a Kingdom Hearts challenge, it will definately be Final Fantasy. I was thinking Final Fantasy IX but not now that I find out you have to have a group of characters level up a whole bunch during the low-level game. I don't like the idea of only having a few characters at a low level, I like low level games where I can end with all my members low, like the FFVI game, that was awesome.
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Ever heard about the level 1 Ozma challange? I've done it. You can't reach the final boss at level 1 but you can reach Ozma at level 1... and beat it at level 1 as well.
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Yeah, maybe I'll give it a try. I like Final Fantasy IX, plus I'll be able to visit Bobby Corwen at level 1. Priceless.
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FFVIII at lowlevel would be way to easy... hmmm... would FFVII lowlevel be possible?
No... you get EXP from the bosses... hmmm... do you get exp from bosses in FFV? I've forgot...
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i take my hat off to you gentlemen cause i cannot do them challenges i bow down to the masters
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Impossible I can't believe it tidus has such low skill and auron does 20016 in the begging.
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so seymours impossible without sphere grid but what about the other enimies surely theres something apart from seymour thats undefeatable. do you have yojimbo because his zanmato attack will kill seymour omnis but if yojimbos impossible to get to without dying your screwed.
