Do you think Bush deserves to be re-elected?

I personally wish Bush would not get re-elected, but I believe he will, because people are too lazy to go out and vote. Most of the people voting will be the right winged folks who are voting for Bush to come back in office. The rest of the people will say they will go vote for Kerry, but they wont actually go and put their vote in the ballot box!!!

On the subject of Bush actually deserving to be re-elected: NO!!! Now, I'm not going to blame the US's bad reputation totally on the man. However, a good amount of it does come from him ( well and the clinton scandal). In the beginning of his term he puts the name of the United States to the world as being invinceable, and indestructable, and by the end our economy is at an ultimate low, and everyone hates us! Oh..what a good president *sarcasm*

Now, don't necessarily count Kerry out just yet. A lot of people are extremely angry with Bush and they WILL go to the polls come election day.

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Originally Posted by DocFrance

How are draft-dodging and cocaine use not a measure of one's character? It says a lot about someone's character when they don't want to fulfill their lawful duty, or choose to violate their nation's law.

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I'm not saying they aren't a measure of his character, but they're not necessarily factors that would influence how good a job one could do as president. Either way, though, they're not exactly characteristics of his I'm terribly proud of.

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Originally Posted by TwistedPeace

the beginning of his term he puts the name of the United States to the world as being invinceable, and indestructable

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Who in the world can take the U.S. down?

I think he is saying that whoever bombs us or just messes with the U.S. WILL be brought down to justice like Saddam and his most of his people. WE ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR BIN LADIN. You guys are saying that we found Saddam and we quit looking for bin ladin. That not true. We are still looking for clues that will lead to him. It isnt going to be quick and easy. There is thousands of acrers of land like Mountains, desserts, caves, citys, and a whole that leads to undergrond.

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Originally Posted by wakka

Who in the world can take the U.S. down?

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There are so many troll replies to that...OK, OK, I shut up ¬¬


I think what it was meant to say the US is not an impenetrable fortress, and well...it is not.

He was never elected in the first place, he was selected by the Supreme Court who were too stupid to look into the fact that Katherine Harris deprived the blacks of their votes. She deleted their chances at voting.

If he gets elected, then it just proves how dumb this country has gotten.

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Originally Posted by Lehteb

Just to point out to the people that argue that Iraq did not have WMDs are not exactly correct. It is a historical fact that Saddam Hussin was given Anthrax and other chemical and biological agents by none other than the US of A. Whoops.

He may not have had nuclear weapons, but there is no doubt that Iraq possessed WMDs.

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Chemical and Biological weapons don't have a long shelf-life. Read up on what the WMD inspector said about that, the guy who was framed by the US.

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Originally Posted by wakka

Who in the world can take the U.S. down?

I think he is saying that whoever bombs us or just messes with the U.S. WILL be brought down to justice like Saddam and his most of his people. WE ARE STILL SEARCHING FOR BIN LADIN. You guys are saying that we found Saddam and we quit looking for bin ladin. That not true. We are still looking for clues that will lead to him. It isnt going to be quick and easy. There is thousands of acrers of land like Mountains, desserts, caves, citys, and a whole that leads to undergrond.

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Iraq never attacked us. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Yet 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. But we did nothing to them. Didnt even detain Saudi officials in this country, in fact they, including all of the Bin Laden family over here, got a first class ticket, one way, out of the US. See anything wrong with that?

And who in the world could take the US down? The world, that's who. I'm sure the Japanese felt the same way about their Empire before is was brought down.

im sure the nazi's once said "who could take down germany" at one point in time. nobody can fight the world, no matter how many nukes you have.

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Originally Posted by DocFrance

And as far as I know, Bush has not lied. You can say all you want that all politicians lie, but until you give me complete, inarguable evidence that he has, then I trust him as my commander-in-chief.

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I wasn't gonna post again in this thread 'cause I actually don't like politics that much (I just read the papers, I got bored of discussing them). But anyway, I think this entry in Manny's LJ is all about the lies Bush has made, although Aaron never said "Bush" so I'm not sure. Either way, if he was talking about Bush, then yay for him doing my lie-homework for me.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/aaronfreed/79243.html

EDIT: Yes, it was about Bush, so yay for me not looking dumb for posting something completely irrelevant. This time.

Yeah, it's about Bush; I figured that was obvious from the content. ;) I discovered the list right before I posted it, actually, which is why I didn't bother bringing it up here earlier, and to be nice I'll repost it here. xD

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This post at the Poor Man is relatively intriguing:

He has lied about his time in the National Guard, and lied about his criminal history. He lied about his relationship with Ken Lay, he lied about who would benefit from his tax cuts, and he lied about stem cells. He lied about his visit to Bob Jones University, he lied about why he wouldn't meet with Log Cabin Republicans, and he lied about reading the EPA report on global warming. He lied about blaming the Clinton administration for the second intifada, he lies constantly about how he pays no attention to polls, he lied about how he loves New York, and he lied about moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. He lied about finding WMD in Iraq, he lied about making his decision to go to war, he lied about the CIA's dismissal of the yellowcake rumors, and he lied about the IAEA's assessment of Iraq's nuclear program. He lied about funding the fight against AIDS in Africa, he lied about when the recession started, and he lied about seeing the first plane hit the WTC. He lied about supporting the Patient Protection Act, and he lied about his deficit spending, and now my wrist hurts.

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That's... one hell of a track record... To say the least... *Vertigo*

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

im sure the nazi's once said "who could take down germany" at one point in time. nobody can fight the world, no matter how many nukes you have.

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You're thinking too simplified. The U.S. is in control of the world and stands supreme in the four decisieve domains of global power: militarily, economically, technologically, and culturally. Germany at the time was surrounded by France and Russia, and the only realistic goals they could possibly achieve was taking control of Europe and absorbing the countries it controlled into Germany, which was impossible to do because of the cultural diversity. The U.S. is hated globally now, so I see how it's easy to believe we're not invincible.
Here's some maps I scanned from a book.

Roman Empire
Manchu Empire
Mongolian Empire
European Influence
British Empire
U.S. Empire

People hate the US because we are successful and widespread. Even if we did everything we could to make people happy, people would still hate us. All we can do is do our best to prevent people from taking violent action against us and our people.

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Originally Posted by DocFrance

People hate the US because we are successful and widespread. Even if we did everything we could to make people happy, people would still hate us. All we can do is do our best to prevent people from taking violent action against us and our people.

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Nah, we hate you because you're widespread, succesful and obnoxious.
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Seriously though: America IS widespread. It's in our tellies, our computers, our rugs and our tv-meals, our soft-drinks and movies. We KNOW you people. We know how tihs-crazy you really are. And we hate you like we hate someone who's close to us, and for the same reason. You leave your droppings all over the place. You don't tidy up. We keep a record on your hypocricies, we know when you haven't done your laundry (cause man, it STINKS), we try to get sleep while you're blaring the TV because of the effin Super Bowl, and you never, ever think you're wrong.