Revolution Controller (and more details about the Rev with video demo)

I don't like it. The analog portion looks fairly small and easy to loose, especially for the NRev's most likely audience, small children. Secondly, held sideways, the controller is akward. So you'd pretty much have to buy the shell just to have a decent controller. I can't imagine "casual gamers" wanting to shell out $200 for the system, $45+ for each game, and then another $15 for a useable controller. It just seems like a huge hassle. I think "casual gamers" would want to get a system, maybe a game or two, and use it right away.

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Originally Posted by Gnostic Yevon

I don't like it. The analog portion looks fairly small and easy to loose, especially for the NRev's most likely audience, small children. Secondly, held sideways, the controller is akward. So you'd pretty much have to buy the shell just to have a decent controller. I can't imagine "casual gamers" wanting to shell out $200 for the system, $45+ for each game, and then another $15 for a useable controller. It just seems like a huge hassle. I think "casual gamers" would want to get a system, maybe a game or two, and use it right away.

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all right let's look at nintendo history....

The system will definitely be cheaper than Microsoft or Sony's next gen, which means more likely for a casual gamer. The joystick part will be included when you buy the system, so not any extra money. And chances are, like back in the day of say... N64, where the expansion pack was included with DK 64, and the transfer pack for GBC games came with Pokemon Stadium, if you actually need this controller, for a lot of games, it'll be included with one at some point. Who knows, maybe it'll be included with the system at the start, or more likely, as some deal after a few months.

Nintendo has always been the cheapest system, and even with these add ons, it still will be. System probably around 200, the other two probably around 400, there's still 200 dollars you saved, and i think you can spend 15 on a controller add on... Therefore, more geared towards the casual gamer, because not as much of an investment.

THE JACKEL

Wow. If thats what Scott actually thinks, Ive lost all faith in him.

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

Nintendo has always been the cheapest system, and even with these add ons, it still will be. System probably around 200, the other two probably around 400, there's still 200 dollars you saved, and i think you can spend 15 on a controller add on... Therefore, more geared towards the casual gamer, because not as much of an investment.

THE JACKAL

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Actually, the xBox 360 and possibly the PS3 are estimated to come out at around $300. Though I can see where you're coming from.

Yes I fear the XBOX 360 and PS3 prices. One of the main reasons I'm getting a Revolution myself, Nintendo has always been cheaper.

That article 'Kishi posted got me thinking - Nintendo *has*, with every system, done something new with the control setup, and it has always been copied. They pretty much invented the D-Pad, something you still see on every controler today even though it isn't used much anymore. They did the shoulder buttons with the SNES. And with the N64, they had the analog joystick, the rumble pack, AND 4 controller ports. All copied. And with the Gamecube, they introduced 1st party wireless controllers, something which both the PS3 and X-Box 360 have, I believe. Granted, I do recall seeing one or two wireless controlers for systems before the Gamecube, but they were all crappy 3rd party ones.

While I wouldn't bet on it, I would not be in the least bit suprised if the PS4 and XBox-whatever had a controller like this. What I would bet on, however, is that they'll copy the motion/position sensing mechanism from the Revolution controller.

Id probably whack my self in the face trying to act Bruce Lee Style with nunchucks. I dont want to use 2 controlers(Like postioned earlier) to play a game. I dont want to be moving around. It'll be like Eye Toy. That was fun for 5 minutes. I want to lay down and relax and play madden or something. FPS would be so confusing, especially with split screens. Even though the games make or break any system, if you wailing your arms around like an idiot and not knowing which button to push, then your game is a POS waste of 50 bucks. Nintendo will be rolling in dough after you by the four or five attachments you already bought to play. The only developers will be Nintendo cause theyll be the only ones who know how to work it. Its not gonna be "It puts you right in to the action" bullcrap, cause you wont know whats goin on.

So i guess the push to VR simulation like .hack wont be accepted then after all if this wouldnt be even given a chance D:

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Originally Posted by JaytodaP

Id probably whack my self in the face trying to act Bruce Lee Style with nunchucks. I dont want to use 2 controlers(Like postioned earlier) to play a game. I dont want to be moving around. It'll be like Eye Toy. That was fun for 5 minutes. I want to lay down and relax and play madden or something. FPS would be so confusing, especially with split screens. Even though the games make or break any system, if you wailing your arms around like an idiot and not knowing which button to push, then your game is a POS waste of 50 bucks. Nintendo will be rolling in dough after you by the four or five attachments you already bought to play. The only developers will be Nintendo cause theyll be the only ones who know how to work it. Its not gonna be "It puts you right in to the action" bullcrap, cause you wont know whats goin on.

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so what your saying is, is that this nintendo controller is going to suck because people in general are all going to suck at it? Interesting. Whats more intresting is the fact that you must have some sort of time machine and you already know how its going to turn out, since your presenting all this as fact.

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Originally Posted by Excelsior

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Originally Posted by JaytodaP

Id probably whack my self in the face trying to act Bruce Lee Style with nunchucks. I dont want to use 2 controlers(Like postioned earlier) to play a game. I dont want to be moving around. It'll be like Eye Toy. That was fun for 5 minutes. I want to lay down and relax and play madden or something. FPS would be so confusing, especially with split screens. Even though the games make or break any system, if you wailing your arms around like an idiot and not knowing which button to push, then your game is a POS waste of 50 bucks. Nintendo will be rolling in dough after you by the four or five attachments you already bought to play. The only developers will be Nintendo cause theyll be the only ones who know how to work it. Its not gonna be "It puts you right in to the action" bullcrap, cause you wont know whats goin on.

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so what your saying is, is that this nintendo controller is going to suck because people in general are all going to suck at it? Interesting. Whats more intresting is the fact that you must have some sort of time machine and you already know how its going to turn out, since your presenting all this as fact.

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90% of the posts here are extremly biased - or prehapse these people do have time machines. If you do happend to have one, please (don't) pm me.

I am excited to see it, but I just think its too different and extreme. It seems really cool for certain games, but not as a mian method of controlling. Now I have read mixed reports that it is the main controller, and others that say that it is a sepreate buy or somthing. What is the final answer on this.

Sides all this, I think having people move around, while zoned into a game causes a ton of hazards to any people or objects standing near by :D Steer clear of mom's favortie lamp...
Bipper

everyone seems to think you're going to need dramatic movement to make this work, I don't think it's going to be that way. From what I read it's simple wrist movements that do most of it and work it quite fluently. YES, it will be the main controller, and everything else will plug into it. The nunchuck style joystick will be included with the purchase of the system, and as I stated earlier, chances are they'll have some deal where you get the classic controller shell with the system as well. Nintendo has always been the best when it comes to saving money. Also, many third parties are already going into development for the system, including square-enix, so I have no doubt that Nintendo won't be the only ones producing games for it.

THE JACKAL

Don't forget the Gamecube controller ports.

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Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9

everyone seems to think you're going to need dramatic movement to make this work, I don't think it's going to be that way. From what I read it's simple wrist movements that do most of it and work it quite fluently. YES, it will be the main controller, and everything else will plug into it. The nunchuck style joystick will be included with the purchase of the system, and as I stated earlier, chances are they'll have some deal where you get the classic controller shell with the system as well. Nintendo has always been the best when it comes to saving money. Also, many third parties are already going into development for the system, uncluding square-enix, so I have no doubt that Nintendo won't be the only ones producing games for it.

THE JACKAL

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Ah cool, thanks for that. As far as the wrist movments goes, I can just see people getting way to into it. As others have said, the hyperactive kids who become beserking, flailing monsters when they get there paws on these games.

I am now stoked about it, with the gamecube controller port, and all the shell comming with the system. Seems like a bunca great moves.

Another question, when you said uncluding square-enix, did you mean included, or are you making up words :D Also, is there any direct news on weather or not final fantasy games (or remakes) (and I mean the main series, no cc etc) will make revolution releases?

Bipper

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Originally Posted by bipper

Ah cool, thanks for that. As far as the wrist movments goes, I can just see people getting way to into it. As others have said, the hyperactive kids who become beserking, flailing monsters when they get there paws on these games.

I am now stoked about it, with the gamecube controller port, and all the shell comming with the system. Seems like a bunca great moves.

Another question, when you said uncluding square-enix, did you mean included, or are you making up words :D Also, is there any direct news on weather or not final fantasy games (or remakes) (and I mean the main series, no cc etc) will make revolution releases?

Bipper

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Now lemme just say that nintendo didn't officially say the main shell would come with the system, but they did say the nunchuck would. It's just with past experience of Nintendo, they'll probably have some deal where it does. Either that or like the expansion pack for the N64 that came with DK64, the first game that completely requires it will come with it.

As far as Sqaure-Enix releasing any FF games, the only ones currently announced are FFCC for the Rev, and FFCC for the DS, however, their exclusive new main series games with Sony is dissipating as can be seen by FFXI on the X-Box, and with all these early FF games going to the portable Nintendo market, it wouldn't surprise me if they might release a main series game on the Rev, but it would have to use the shell cause it'd probably be multi-platform. However, I feel FFCC will take full advantage of this new controller, in some way shape or form, as I'm sure they'll probably produce a number of other different games as well for the system

THE JACKEL

I don't like the contoller I think Ninty are being too strange and are masking as something "different"......... it looks crap