is Sephiroth the best bad guy in the series?

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Originally Posted by Dragon Mage

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Sephiroth didn't want to rule, He wanted to protect the promised land. As I said earlier, his veiws on good and evil were skewed, in his mind, him destroying the planet saves the Promised land because it's something he felt worth saving. His intentions were noble on another level of nobility. And yeah, The idea of 'becoming a god' has become something else at this point of the thread.

But back stabbing or not, Sephiroth did what he was doing to protect something, it's not like he was going around killing because he thought it was fun to kill, he was killing the things he veiwed as a threat to the promised land which happened to be everything in existance. He had no intentions as ruling as a god, and even if he did, he was smart which should have made him realize if you destroy existance (not to mention himself) there's nothing to rule.

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Good God man can you hear yourself? He didn't want to protect the Promised Land he wanted to get it. And when he couldn't get it, he decided that no one could have it. He is the most unoble jackass in the game. Killing flower girls by sabbing them in the back, trying to destroy the world because he couldn't get what he wanted, burning down towns.....must I go on? THAT is not noble. It's like killing the person you're guarding kind make the whole point moot, no? According to you, he's destroying what he wants to save, becuase it's in danger. IT'S IN DANGER BECUASE HE'S GOING TO DESTROY IT!!!!!! Mull over that a little and I'll get back to you.

And by 'god' I mean, becoming so powerful it's nigh impossible to kill him.

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I honestly think every post that says "Sephiroth looks the coolest" or anything to the extent of 'looking cool' should be erased.

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But I do agree with you here. If one is going to argue, argue on reasonable facts, not personal opinion.

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Yes, I do hear myself, and I am a MIGHTY GOD. Not just good. He didn't want it all for himself, if you remember his insane rantings about how the not pure people (basically everyone other than the ancients which is.. basically everyone 'cept Aeris) would destroy the promised land because of their impurities, He wanted all of them to die because they didn't deserve to go to the promised land. Kill all the impurities, in his head, You'd only have him by default. The reason he killed Aeris is because she posed as a threat to him, he wanted to smash a meteor into the planet because he knew the planet would gush with the lifestream and if he could get all that power he -could- become a god, and with his thinkings, Gods can get into the promised land because they're as holy and pure as the ancients once were.

He wanted to destroy the planet, not the promised land, In his head these are two different things. Go back to the game, disc one perferably and read his ramblings in depth about how "Clouds ancestors ran and hid in shelters while the ancients fought" and what not, He hates the 'impurities' living because they are not good enough to make it into the Promised Land, only the ancients. And no one can say "Well he killed Aeris and she was an ancient" yeah she was, but Sephiroth -was- human, so she posed as a threat, he killed her as simple as that.

The idea of 'promised Land' can be interperted by the gamer, it's not like you could look on the world map for 'promised land' and find it, it's obviously not the lifestream because as we saw with cloud, that doesn't really help to much. My idea of the 'Promised Land' is much like Heaven should be, the purest get in. Ironically in FF7 the lifestream was as pure as you get, and if Sephiroth could use that he could get in the promised land. I don't believe the planet itself was the promised land by anymeans.

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Yes, I do hear myself, and I am a MIGHTY GOD. Not just good. He didn't want it all for himself, if you remember his insane rantings about how the not pure people (basically everyone other than the ancients which is.. basically everyone 'cept Aeris) would destroy the promised land because of their impurities, He wanted all of them to die because they didn't deserve to go to the promised land. Kill all the impurities, in his head, You'd only have him by default. The reason he killed Aeris is because she posed as a threat to him, he wanted to smash a meteor into the planet because he knew the planet would gush with the lifestream and if he could get all that power he -could- become a god, and with his thinkings, Gods can get into the promised land because they're as holy and pure as the ancients once were.

He wanted to destroy the planet, not the promised land, In his head these are two different things. Go back to the game, disc one perferably and read his ramblings in depth about how "Clouds ancestors ran and hid in shelters while the ancients fought" and what not, He hates the 'impurities' living because they are not good enough to make it into the Promised Land, only the ancients. And no one can say "Well he killed Aeris and she was an ancient" yeah she was, but Sephiroth -was- human, so she posed as a threat, he killed her as simple as that.

The idea of 'promised Land' can be interperted by the gamer, it's not like you could look on the world map for 'promised land' and find it, it's obviously not the lifestream because as we saw with cloud, that doesn't really help to much. My idea of the 'Promised Land' is much like Heaven should be, the purest get in. Ironically in FF7 the lifestream was as pure as you get, and if Sephiroth could use that he could get in the promised land. I don't believe the planet itself was the promised land by anymeans.

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And since all the Ancients are dead, that would mean everyone on the planet is unpure and must be destroyed. The frapping planet is the promised land, or it's lifestream at any rate. He's a prime example of misanthropy, so anything he says should include that fact. SEPHIROTH WAS NEVER WHOLLY HUMAN!!!!!! He was a half-alien, thus, he wan't human! There is no 'anceints' and 'non-anceints'-technically they're all the same. The Cetra however were telepathically gifted and were able to communicate with the planet because of this. If you destroy the planet then you destroy it's lifestream=destroying the promised land. You can't have one with out the other. Whoope sephiroth, real good move on your part!!!-_-. Give me a break.
And following your idea of heaven, that should mean all children and unborn babies should get in. They don't. They go in Limbo. Your vision is flawed.

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Originally Posted by Dragon Mage

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Yes, I do hear myself, and I am a MIGHTY GOD. Not just good. He didn't want it all for himself, if you remember his insane rantings about how the not pure people (basically everyone other than the ancients which is.. basically everyone 'cept Aeris) would destroy the promised land because of their impurities, He wanted all of them to die because they didn't deserve to go to the promised land. Kill all the impurities, in his head, You'd only have him by default. The reason he killed Aeris is because she posed as a threat to him, he wanted to smash a meteor into the planet because he knew the planet would gush with the lifestream and if he could get all that power he -could- become a god, and with his thinkings, Gods can get into the promised land because they're as holy and pure as the ancients once were.

He wanted to destroy the planet, not the promised land, In his head these are two different things. Go back to the game, disc one perferably and read his ramblings in depth about how "Clouds ancestors ran and hid in shelters while the ancients fought" and what not, He hates the 'impurities' living because they are not good enough to make it into the Promised Land, only the ancients. And no one can say "Well he killed Aeris and she was an ancient" yeah she was, but Sephiroth -was- human, so she posed as a threat, he killed her as simple as that.

The idea of 'promised Land' can be interperted by the gamer, it's not like you could look on the world map for 'promised land' and find it, it's obviously not the lifestream because as we saw with cloud, that doesn't really help to much. My idea of the 'Promised Land' is much like Heaven should be, the purest get in. Ironically in FF7 the lifestream was as pure as you get, and if Sephiroth could use that he could get in the promised land. I don't believe the planet itself was the promised land by anymeans.

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And since all the Ancients are dead, that would mean everyone on the planet is unpure and must be destroyed. The frapping planet is the promised land, or it's lifestream at any rate. He's a prime example of misanthropy, so anything he says should include that fact. SEPHIROTH WAS NEVER WHOLLY HUMAN!!!!!! He was a half-alien, thus, he wan't human! There is no 'anceints' and 'non-anceints'-technically they're all the same. The Cetra however were telepathically gifted and were able to communicate with the planet because of this. If you destroy the planet then you destroy it's lifestream=destroying the promised land. You can't have one with out the other. Whoope sephiroth, real good move on your part!!!-_-. Give me a break.
And following your idea of heaven, that should mean all children and unborn babies should get in. They don't. They go in Limbo. Your vision is flawed.

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I stopped reading once I read the thing that almost 99% of people know, and apparently you didn't.

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Sephiroth is (SPOILER)Hojo and Luceria(sp)'sKid.
You just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there. Thanks for playing! :razz:

He's a good villain, but if you think about it, he's also a big mamma's boy.

Ouch, poor Chrisfffan getting pounced on for quoting my lil post at the bottom of page 5. But here's a summary of my thoughts in case you don't wish to go back and read the whole thing.

1. Sephiroth is my favorite FF villain
2. Kuja is pretty darned close.
3. Kefka didn't scare me.

Near the end of my post I mentioned that no matter how high your body count is, it won't make you the best villain. Now am I saying that Sephiroth could take Kuja or Kefka in a fight? No, not at all. I am perfectly capable of acknowledging that Kefka became a god, and that Kujas trance was really destructive.

But destructive ability does not make you a good villain. It's what you say and what you do and how you do. The style of it and the ability to just be a bastard. The fact that I keep on killing you and you keep on coming back. And one of the scariest things is being insane enough to think that causing the death of millions is the right thing to do.

These are all the reasons why I think Sephiroth is the best villain. He had the villainous qualities that both Kefka and Kuja had. He had the mysterious side and amazing speeches of Kuja, and the ability to pull off truly evil things like Kefka.

And just as a side note, someone made a comment that perhaps I haven't even played Final Fantasy VI (I know the post was directed towards Chrisfffan, but it was still my words that were commented on.) Let me give you some background. I am reasonably new FF player. I had played Final Fantasy for NES when I was a kid, but I wasn't a Final Fantasy fan until I played FFX. After playing that, I went out and bought Origins, Chronicles, Anthology, VII, VIII, IX, and even Tactics.

Seeing as that is how it is, I couldn't be a "blind Sephiroth fan." I know a lot of people love Kefka and Sephiroth because it reminds them of the first time they played VI and VII. Well, I'm not in that group, and I played them in order. And as a completely unbiased individual who has no nostalgic reasons for liking Sephiroth, Kuja, or Kefka I think my opinion is pretty rare one.

And one last thing, and I really feel like I need to repeat this. I am not judging a villain on how many people he killed and what kind of power he had. I am judging them by how much I hated them in game. Kefka was a god-clown. Kuja I felt bad for, and actually kind of liked. But I hated Sephiroth... that makes him the best villain in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Dragon Mage

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Yes, I do hear myself, and I am a MIGHTY GOD. Not just good. He didn't want it all for himself, if you remember his insane rantings about how the not pure people (basically everyone other than the ancients which is.. basically everyone 'cept Aeris) would destroy the promised land because of their impurities, He wanted all of them to die because they didn't deserve to go to the promised land. Kill all the impurities, in his head, You'd only have him by default. The reason he killed Aeris is because she posed as a threat to him, he wanted to smash a meteor into the planet because he knew the planet would gush with the lifestream and if he could get all that power he -could- become a god, and with his thinkings, Gods can get into the promised land because they're as holy and pure as the ancients once were.

He wanted to destroy the planet, not the promised land, In his head these are two different things. Go back to the game, disc one perferably and read his ramblings in depth about how "Clouds ancestors ran and hid in shelters while the ancients fought" and what not, He hates the 'impurities' living because they are not good enough to make it into the Promised Land, only the ancients. And no one can say "Well he killed Aeris and she was an ancient" yeah she was, but Sephiroth -was- human, so she posed as a threat, he killed her as simple as that.

The idea of 'promised Land' can be interperted by the gamer, it's not like you could look on the world map for 'promised land' and find it, it's obviously not the lifestream because as we saw with cloud, that doesn't really help to much. My idea of the 'Promised Land' is much like Heaven should be, the purest get in. Ironically in FF7 the lifestream was as pure as you get, and if Sephiroth could use that he could get in the promised land. I don't believe the planet itself was the promised land by anymeans.

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And since all the Ancients are dead, that would mean everyone on the planet is unpure and must be destroyed. The frapping planet is the promised land, or it's lifestream at any rate. He's a prime example of misanthropy, so anything he says should include that fact. SEPHIROTH WAS NEVER WHOLLY HUMAN!!!!!! He was a half-alien, thus, he wan't human! There is no 'anceints' and 'non-anceints'-technically they're all the same. The Cetra however were telepathically gifted and were able to communicate with the planet because of this. If you destroy the planet then you destroy it's lifestream=destroying the promised land. You can't have one with out the other. Whoope sephiroth, real good move on your part!!!-_-. Give me a break.
And following your idea of heaven, that should mean all children and unborn babies should get in. They don't. They go in Limbo. Your vision is flawed.

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I agree with you about Sephiroth, but about the Promised Land, the Omega Guide say that the Promised Land is a mistery. The Cetra think that is the Lifestream, but Shinra and Sephiroth think that is the Northern Crater. Each person have their own interpretation of what is the PL, but no one know what trully is.
Resuming, the UOG don't guive us an answer about it, meaning that any interpretation is valid.

And Avarice-ness, this is a quote from the game:

Temple of the Ancients

Sephiroth:... Ah, but i have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients.


Do you know what that means Avarice-ness? That means that he have the knowledge of the Cetra, the knowledge about Jenova's true nature. He is not a Cetra and he don't want to reach the Promised Land, because the UOG said that to Sephiroth, the Promised Land was the Northern Crater(that he already reached).

Do you know what that means, Avarice-ness?
That means that you just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there. Thanks for playing!

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Originally Posted by The Crystal

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Originally Posted by Dragon Mage

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Yes, I do hear myself, and I am a MIGHTY GOD. Not just good. He didn't want it all for himself, if you remember his insane rantings about how the not pure people (basically everyone other than the ancients which is.. basically everyone 'cept Aeris) would destroy the promised land because of their impurities, He wanted all of them to die because they didn't deserve to go to the promised land. Kill all the impurities, in his head, You'd only have him by default. The reason he killed Aeris is because she posed as a threat to him, he wanted to smash a meteor into the planet because he knew the planet would gush with the lifestream and if he could get all that power he -could- become a god, and with his thinkings, Gods can get into the promised land because they're as holy and pure as the ancients once were.

He wanted to destroy the planet, not the promised land, In his head these are two different things. Go back to the game, disc one perferably and read his ramblings in depth about how "Clouds ancestors ran and hid in shelters while the ancients fought" and what not, He hates the 'impurities' living because they are not good enough to make it into the Promised Land, only the ancients. And no one can say "Well he killed Aeris and she was an ancient" yeah she was, but Sephiroth -was- human, so she posed as a threat, he killed her as simple as that.

The idea of 'promised Land' can be interperted by the gamer, it's not like you could look on the world map for 'promised land' and find it, it's obviously not the lifestream because as we saw with cloud, that doesn't really help to much. My idea of the 'Promised Land' is much like Heaven should be, the purest get in. Ironically in FF7 the lifestream was as pure as you get, and if Sephiroth could use that he could get in the promised land. I don't believe the planet itself was the promised land by anymeans.

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And since all the Ancients are dead, that would mean everyone on the planet is unpure and must be destroyed. The frapping planet is the promised land, or it's lifestream at any rate. He's a prime example of misanthropy, so anything he says should include that fact. SEPHIROTH WAS NEVER WHOLLY HUMAN!!!!!! He was a half-alien, thus, he wan't human! There is no 'anceints' and 'non-anceints'-technically they're all the same. The Cetra however were telepathically gifted and were able to communicate with the planet because of this. If you destroy the planet then you destroy it's lifestream=destroying the promised land. You can't have one with out the other. Whoope sephiroth, real good move on your part!!!-_-. Give me a break.
And following your idea of heaven, that should mean all children and unborn babies should get in. They don't. They go in Limbo. Your vision is flawed.

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I agree with you about Sephiroth, but about the Promised Land, the Omega Guide say that the Promised Land is a mistery. The Cetra think that is the Lifestream, but Shinra and Sephiroth think that is the Northern Crater. Each person have their own interpretation of what is the PL, but no one know what trully is.
Resuming, the UOG don't guive us an answer about it, meaning that any interpretation is valid.

And Avarice-ness, this is a quote from the game:

Temple of the Ancients

Sephiroth:... Ah, but i have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients.


Do you know what that means Avarice-ness? That means that he have the knowledge of the Cetra, the knowledge about Jenova's true nature. He is not a Cetra and he don't want to reach the Promised Land, because the UOG said that to Sephiroth, the Promised Land was the Northern Crater(that he already reached).

Do you know what that means, Avarice-ness?
That means that you just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there. Thanks for playing!

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Maybe it's because when I see the fact Sephiroth is 'one' with Jenova is all based off the cells he has in him, It tends to make me wonder if I get a liver implant from someone, get their blood and what not, am I then their sister? Do I get another way awesome parent because we share the same, now unatural blood? No, I'm still pretty sure the one's who birthed me are my parents regardless if I had a liver and blood of another. Sephiroth -says- he's superior, last time I checked 98% of these people say he's insane, and last time I checked, you don't believe insane people.
Testing made him crazy, testing with jenova cells, but he isn't from another planet, or half of anything. He was born human and tested on.
I don't consider failed test subjects to be anything higher than what they are, even if they -know- as much as a dead race. (I say failed, because regardless, Cloud was seen as a failed experiment and.. Omg! Destroys him!)
Try to look at this with as much normal logic as you can, instead of what video games tell you, and remember, Don't believe the crazy guy or we're all screwed.

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Originally Posted by Dragon Mage

And since all the Ancients are dead, that would mean everyone on the planet is unpure and must be destroyed. The frapping planet is the promised land, or it's lifestream at any rate. He's a prime example of misanthropy, so anything he says should include that fact. SEPHIROTH WAS NEVER WHOLLY HUMAN!!!!!! He was a half-alien, thus, he wan't human! There is no 'anceints' and 'non-anceints'-technically they're all the same. The Cetra however were telepathically gifted and were able to communicate with the planet because of this. If you destroy the planet then you destroy it's lifestream=destroying the promised land. You can't have one with out the other. Whoope sephiroth, real good move on your part!!!-_-. Give me a break.
And following your idea of heaven, that should mean all children and unborn babies should get in. They don't. They go in Limbo. Your vision is flawed.

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I agree with you about Sephiroth, but about the Promised Land, the Omega Guide say that the Promised Land is a mistery. The Cetra think that is the Lifestream, but Shinra and Sephiroth think that is the Northern Crater. Each person have their own interpretation of what is the PL, but no one know what trully is.
Resuming, the UOG don't guive us an answer about it, meaning that any interpretation is valid.

And Avarice-ness, this is a quote from the game:

Temple of the Ancients

Sephiroth:... Ah, but i have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients.


Do you know what that means Avarice-ness? That means that he have the knowledge of the Cetra, the knowledge about Jenova's true nature. He is not a Cetra and he don't want to reach the Promised Land, because the UOG said that to Sephiroth, the Promised Land was the Northern Crater(that he already reached).

Do you know what that means, Avarice-ness?
That means that you just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there. Thanks for playing!

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Dragon Mage, you said:
A) that Sephiroth was never wholly human, when he was (SPOILER)the son of Hojo and Lucrecia
B) That there are no 'ancients' and 'non-ancients'. Regular humans were the Cetra who stopped listening to the Planet, which makes a clear distinction between Cetra and non-Cetra.
C) implied that Sephiroth was trying to destroy the Planet, which would destroy the Lifestream and so destroy the Promised Land, which was his other aim. The Omega Guide states that the Promised Land is a mystery (as opposed to a 'mistery'), and so it was entirely possible to destroy the Lifestream and not the Promised Land.
D) that children and unborn babies go to Limbo. How do you know how the universe works?
It looks like you've just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth (and the nature of the universe) right there. Thanks for playing!

The Crystal, you quoted and agreed with A) and C). You, too, have just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there. Thanks for playing!

Sephiroth is (SPOILER)Hojos and Lecrecias son he was injected with Jenova cells while in the womb,the promised land is the northern cave because of the energy being gatherd because of the''crisies from the sky'',his goal was to repeat the ''crises from the sky'' incident on a larger scale because when the planet suffers a wound it gathers energy and sephiroth would be in the middle of the wound collecting energy and finally becoming a god.Some of you might be wondering''hey wait sephiroth was sleeping in the north crater until metor had crashed but metor was going to crash into Midgar,so how can he collect the energy''but i can only speculate that he would have ''woken up'' and went into the energy and to finish with Sephiroth IS human he is like cloud,a shinra experiment but on a more extreme scale

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And since all the Ancients are dead, that would mean everyone on the planet is unpure and must be destroyed. The frapping planet is the promised land, or it's lifestream at any rate. He's a prime example of misanthropy, so anything he says should include that fact. SEPHIROTH WAS NEVER WHOLLY HUMAN!!!!!! He was a half-alien, thus, he wan't human! There is no 'anceints' and 'non-anceints'-technically they're all the same. The Cetra however were telepathically gifted and were able to communicate with the planet because of this. If you destroy the planet then you destroy it's lifestream=destroying the promised land. You can't have one with out the other. Whoope sephiroth, real good move on your part!!!-_-. Give me a break.
And following your idea of heaven, that should mean all children and unborn babies should get in. They don't. They go in Limbo. Your vision is flawed.

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I agree with you about Sephiroth, but about the Promised Land, the Omega Guide say that the Promised Land is a mistery. The Cetra think that is the Lifestream, but Shinra and Sephiroth think that is the Northern Crater. Each person have their own interpretation of what is the PL, but no one know what trully is.
Resuming, the UOG don't guive us an answer about it, meaning that any interpretation is valid.

And Avarice-ness, this is a quote from the game:

Temple of the Ancients

Sephiroth:... Ah, but i have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients.


Do you know what that means Avarice-ness? That means that he have the knowledge of the Cetra, the knowledge about Jenova's true nature. He is not a Cetra and he don't want to reach the Promised Land, because the UOG said that to Sephiroth, the Promised Land was the Northern Crater(that he already reached).

Do you know what that means, Avarice-ness?
That means that you just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there. Thanks for playing!

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Dragon Mage, you said:
A) that Sephiroth was never wholly human, when he was (SPOILER)the son of Hojo and Lucrecia
B) That there are no 'ancients' and 'non-ancients'. Regular humans were the Cetra who stopped listening to the Planet, which makes a clear distinction between Cetra and non-Cetra.
C) implied that Sephiroth was trying to destroy the Planet, which would destroy the Lifestream and so destroy the Promised Land, which was his other aim. The Omega Guide states that the Promised Land is a mystery (as opposed to a 'mistery'), and so it was entirely possible to destroy the Lifestream and not the Promised Land.
D) that children and unborn babies go to Limbo. How do you know how the universe works?
It looks like you've just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth (and the nature of the universe) right there. Thanks for playing!

The Crystal, you quoted and agreed with A) and C). You, too, have just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there. Thanks for playing!

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A) When i said "I agree with you about Sephiroth" i was talking about, Sephiroth trying to destroy the world and don't wanting to reach the PL. I agree with this. I never talked about Sephiroth's nature, because this is about interpretation. Some people belive that he is a Jenova/human and others don't.

C)

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Originally Posted by Ultimania Omega Guide

The Shin-Ra interpreted that a land of supreme happiness must be somewhere where they could find abundant mako [as it would make them even more wealthy], and wished to use an Ancient to help them find it, while Sephiroth considered the Promised Land to be a place in which he could draw the power to use the Black Materia in his aim to become a "god." Though both of them had different goals, they both got the idea that the Northern Crater was the place they were looking for.

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Sephiroth was not trying to reach the Promised Land, because in his mind, he was in the Promised Land(Northern Crater) during all the game.


Read the UOG, and then talk to me again, okay?

Who are the Ultimania Guides written by? If it is anyone other then Square I'm going to laugh.

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Who are the Ultimania Guides written by? If it is anyone other then Square I'm going to laugh.

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Square wrote them.

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Who are the Ultimania Guides written by? If it is anyone other then Square I'm going to laugh.

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Square wrote them.

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Good. With that said I feel the Ultimania Guides ruin the games. It takes away the expirence of you getting to imagine certain things which is why I try and forget they exist.

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Originally Posted by Goldenboco

Who are the Ultimania Guides written by? If it is anyone other then Square I'm going to laugh.

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Square wrote them.

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Good. With that said I feel the Ultimania Guides ruin the games. It takes away the expirence of you getting to imagine certain things which is why I try and forget they exist.

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I think that just because a game gets popular, that doesn't mean they need to start writing indepth essays about what the game was about, if they wanted to add all this indepth stuff in, put it in the game. I played the game the day it came out, I've had an idea the day it came out and it all came from playing a game, not reading things square added in via book instead of video game. In my opinion, anything outside of things in the gameplay isn't worth it, so if they -EVER- remake it (Hopefully not. e e) then they might as well add in all the things they figured they'd tell you in guides. Adding to a good story doesn't make it better, it can make it worse or it can make it drag on, oddly enough Square did both! :D

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Originally Posted by Goldenboco

Who are the Ultimania Guides written by? If it is anyone other then Square I'm going to laugh.

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Square wrote them.

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Good. With that said I feel the Ultimania Guides ruin the games. It takes away the expirence of you getting to imagine certain things which is why I try and forget they exist.

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I think that just because a game gets popular, that doesn't mean they need to start writing indepth essays about what the game was about, if they wanted to add all this indepth stuff in, put it in the game. I played the game the day it came out, I've had an idea the day it came out and it all came from playing a game, not reading things square added in via book instead of video game. In my opinion, anything outside of things in the gameplay isn't worth it, so if they -EVER- remake it (Hopefully not. e e) then they might as well add in all the things they figured they'd tell you in guides. Adding to a good story doesn't make it better, it can make it worse or it can make it drag on, oddly enough Square did both! :D

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So, you ignore what SE say about the game, and then you say something like "You just lost your credibility on knowing Sephiroth right there"?! And what credibility you have?! You are deliberatly ignoring the facts!