Will Final Fantasy XV's Cid be a Lady?

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Originally Posted by Loony BoB

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Originally Posted by ToriJ

It's shared by the men, but if XV has proven anything it's that they're fully capable of making older characters with wrinkles and all. Hopefully women won't be far behind.

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Have they? I mean, all the playable characters look about 25 at most. Maybe that's just me.

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Cidney isn't a playable character either though?

Noctis and his hatchback Brosephs are all the playable characters as the devs have stated in the interviews so far.

As for the old guys, just use the Fifteen skin on this site and examine the guy to the left of Stella, the guy to the right of Noctis and the guy to the right of Assassin's Creed Assassin Man. I believe it is those characters that ToriJ was referring too, showing that SQEX are more than capable of designing older characters that are integral to the story.

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

As for the old guys, just use the Fifteen skin on this site and examine the guy to the left of Stella, the guy to the right of Noctis and the guy to the right of Assassin's Creed Assassin Man. I believe it is those characters that ToriJ was referring too, showing that SQEX are more than capable of designing older characters that are integral to the story.

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Yup.

Also the main consumers of Final Fantasy are young adults. You also don't make the Pokémon main character over 20 just because some people might want that. If the looks of older characters would interest more people there would be more Dysleys, Tellas or FuSoYas, but cool, good-looking and strong fantasy-anime characters that they want to be like and are interested in are the main aspect.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Also the main consumers of Final Fantasy are young adults. You also don't make the Pokémon main character over 20 just because some people might want that.

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Main character != NPCs

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Also the main consumers of Final Fantasy are young adults.

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Citation Needed :monster:

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

Main character != NPCs

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The talk was about characters that were also in your team.

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

Citation Needed :monster:

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I don't know about you but in my country Final Fantasy is not for smaller kids and being in multiple forums the amount of young adults has been way greater than that of, I don't know, people in their 40s. I could even take a younger age than 40 but I am afraid to insult someone with that, which I do not want so I just leave thatb one out before someone here is insulted again by stuff that was never meant to be bad/insulting in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

Main character != NPCs

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The talk was about characters that were also in your team.

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Still not the "main" character though.

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

Citation Needed :monster:

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I don't know about you but in my country Final Fantasy is not for smaller kids and being in multiple forums the amount of young adults has been way greater than that of, I don't know, people in their 40s. I could even take a younger age than 40 but I am afraid to insult someone with that, which I do not want.

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And from contextual evidence I could tell you that most of the people I know from FF forums are in their mid-late twenties/early thirties and a large number of people I play Final Fantasy XIV with are in the latter half of their thirties. I wouldn't use such limited evidence to make a sweeping generalization on the internet though, especially when the consumer research suggests the average age of video game consumers is someone in their 30s these days.

Irregardless, if the consumers are aged in their 20s or 30s or 40s... someone aged 15 (which seems to be a common age for fantasy RPG characters), for example, is not exactly a young adult. By all accounts in most countries someone of that age would be classed as a child still.

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

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Originally Posted by Loony BoB

This reminds me a little of that thing we did about "What FF could learn from GoT" - we should have added in "older women are cool". But hey, at least they listened to one thing we added on that list.

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I don't know how old you think Daenerys is but... :erm:

There are four female point of view characters in AGoT. Three of them are fourteen or under. Just sayin'.

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I was referring to the TV series, where we have a number of very cool older ladies. My point stands. And I don't think Dany is notably cool, so yeah. I think almost all the older females are cooler than almost all the younger ones in GoT and also think the eldest of them all (I think) is the coolest.

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Originally Posted by ToriJ

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

As for the old guys, just use the Fifteen skin on this site and examine the guy to the left of Stella, the guy to the right of Noctis and the guy to the right of Assassin's Creed Assassin Man. I believe it is those characters that ToriJ was referring too, showing that SQEX are more than capable of designing older characters that are integral to the story.

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Yup.

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Oh, I know older males are in there, and I know older females have been in FF before too, although probably not in notable roles (unless they appear young like in VIII with the sorcerers, or Fran).

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

And from contextual evidence I could tell you that most of the people I know from FF forums are in their mid-late twenties/early thirties and a large number of people I play Final Fantasy XIV with are in the latter half of their thirties. I wouldn't use such limited evidence to make a sweeping generalization on the internet though, especially when the consumer research suggests the average age of video game consumers is someone in their 30s these days.

Irregardless, if the consumers are aged in their 20s or 30s or 40s... someone aged 15, for example, is not exactly a young adult. By all accounts in most countries someone of that age would be classed as a child still.

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The age you have mentioned covers young adults. You take "young adults" as "teenager" which I never defined as in the first place. It only begins with teenagers. And yes, 30 is also young considering how old a human being can get. And yes, also those people were perfectly fine with the age of the characters. People should not think just because 10/1000 want something different that it is a problem.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

And from contextual evidence I could tell you that most of the people I know from FF forums are in their mid-late twenties/early thirties and a large number of people I play Final Fantasy XIV with are in the latter half of their thirties. I wouldn't use such limited evidence to make a sweeping generalization on the internet though, especially when the consumer research suggests the average age of video game consumers is someone in their 30s these days.

Irregardless, if the consumers are aged in their 20s or 30s or 40s... someone aged 15, for example, is not exactly a young adult. By all accounts in most countries someone of that age would be classed as a child still.

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The age you have mentioned covers young adults. You take "young adults" as "teenager" which I never defined as in the first place. It only begins with teenagers.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You also don't make the Pokémon main character over 20 just because some people might want that.

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Originally Posted by Fox_

The weirdest age related thing in Final Fantasy was Quistis, I felt. Usually you get away with the fact that everyone's like, 19 by simply not talking about it. But Quistis? "I became a SeeD when I was 15, and then an instructor when I was 17. That was one year ago."

How can you be an instructor at that age? Is she even old enough to be drinking the champagne at that party?

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I'm not getting into the rest of this argument because I don't care to really, but Quistis has always been an interesting character to me. The fact that she was made an instructor at such a young age is absolutely ridiculous, but she never really comes off as a particularly good instructor either. I've always thought that she always seemed a bit immature, and she acted like a teenager for much of the time I felt. Balamb Garden is kind of poorly run in general. The initial purpose of building the school was shakily vague at best, and it eventually just seemed to become a school where they were simply training kids from a very young age to become highly trained mercenaries by 18ish. Cid doesn't seem to really be running things well in the glimpses we see of the school. Honestly, the garden faculty and NORG all seem to have more control at the end of the day.

Interestingly, we never see any other teachers either that I can think of. I wonder if all the teachers in that school are young like Quistis, or if maybe Cid had the stupid idea of thinking "well, maybe the kids will be able to relate better to an instructor that is the same age as them." The whole of the VIII world and the Garden concept is really weird when you think about it.

But I digress, that has little to do with the arguments being made in this thread, and has literally nothing to do with XV.

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

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Originally Posted by Aulayna

And from contextual evidence I could tell you that most of the people I know from FF forums are in their mid-late twenties/early thirties and a large number of people I play Final Fantasy XIV with are in the latter half of their thirties. I wouldn't use such limited evidence to make a sweeping generalization on the internet though, especially when the consumer research suggests the average age of video game consumers is someone in their 30s these days.

Irregardless, if the consumers are aged in their 20s or 30s or 40s... someone aged 15, for example, is not exactly a young adult. By all accounts in most countries someone of that age would be classed as a child still.

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The age you have mentioned covers young adults. You take "young adults" as "teenager" which I never defined as in the first place. It only begins with teenagers.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You also don't make the Pokémon main character over 20 just because some people might want that.

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Ah, you took those two together. They were two different examples. I did not mean that the main consumer age of Pokémon is equal to Final Fantasy. My bad. Pokémon begins earlier. I thought that was obvious.

who calls a thirty-year-old a young adult, seriously

A 30 year old is for sure no old adult. Do you want to call it "mid-adult"? Also, my term was just there to stand for something. I could take it away and still mean exactly the same. And as said, Final Fantasy has plenty of "younger adults" that the player can use to project their own wishes in. You will not see a 60 year old player ranting that they have not 100 60 year old characters to play that stand for them.

Well, considering "young adult" is commonly understood to describe fiction aimed at ages 14 to 21, it's a pretty idiosyncratic use of the term to use it to describe a thirty-year-old.

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Originally Posted by The Man

who calls a thirty-year-old a young adult, seriously

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30 is the new 15.