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This is a game I really wanted to like, but I just couldn't. While the premise, storyline, and characters were interesting, I hated the primary game mechanics. Sure, they're original, but being original is not the same thing as being good. I loathed the amount of stylus control required. We know the combat system can support buttons, because we control the top screen with buttons. Why couldn't we just control both characters with buttons? Top screen D-Pad, bottoms screen ABXY.
But, far worse than that, was the garment and pin system. While it had some really neat concepts, the terrible world design and episodic nature of the game made the entire thing worthless. With each square of the world having different shops, carrying different items, and having its own rating of your characters, things quickly spiraled into a massively overcomplicated web that you NEED an FAQ or two to get through. Then they make it even worse by giving you so little control or understanding of the pin upgrade system that essentially your pins would just change as random. Again, unless you were using a guide.
"Oh, did we forget to tell you? If you leave your game off too long, this pin you love using is going to change into THIS nearly worthless new one, instead of a different new type. What's that? You want to go back and buy another one? Oh, sorry, completing that last mini-objective sealed off the square of the map you needed to get to. You should have bought everything you wanted at that shop while you could. Oh, you need to build up your reputation with this new line of shops in order to get something good? Pity you didn't buy everything out of that first store they had back in the first level of the game, it would make that so much easier."
The character progression and ability mechanics just SUCK. They needed to actually explain the way the systems work (including letting you know what pin evolutions were possible ahead of time), and they needed to give you the freedom to explore the world openly. Being segmented to five or six map screens at a time (out of what looks like a hundred) completely destroys any ability to understand or build on the shop system, which is kind of a huge part of the game.
I absolutely adore this game. Have you played the iOS version, Fynn? I've always been interested in how that one works out since it is confined to one screen. I know you just see and control Neku and you don't have your partner except for in special moves or something. It's interesting, but I just can't imagine not having the two screen mechanic. It could be nice for people that just didn't like/couldn't grasp the two screens though.
There was nothing I didn't like about this game, and it's the only time I actually didn't mind playing something with touch controls. I need to play it again soon. It's definitely my current favorite DS game (though there are plenty of games I haven't played yet.)
You do raise a valid point. The way you put it, it does look like poor game design, and I can understand why you're miffed by it. I was never that much of a completionist and finished the game just fine without maxing anything. And I was too sucked into the story to actually care about those :monster: Still, hoping you'll someday find a way to enjoy this game!Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
I've actually only played the iOS version and I loved it! Your partners get reduced to pins that last a bit longer than normal ones and charge up so that you can perform those nifty special attacks. It's simplified, but it works. I never felt like my experience was being hampered in any way. The enhanced visuals and more music certainly made up for it, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty_ffgamer
So here's a couple of hints about my top 10!
Two spots are occupied by two games from one series each, making my top ten actually a top twelve (shut up - my list, my rules :p)
Two spots contain Western RPGs.
9 games (not places) are parts of series that already appeared on the list.
Only one game is not an RPG.
I thought you'd played the iOS version, but I couldn't remember for sure. I might pick up that version someday. I still can't imagine it being confined to one screen because there were some fun things i really enjoyed that I feel wouldn't be present without the two screen gameplay. I imagine it is still a great game though.
I absolutely loved this game. Almost failed a semester of college because I spent all my free time playing it. I loved the stylus controls which made trying out new pins fun, I loved the shop mechanics to unlock new stuff and I loved the fact it wasn't just about grinding to get new gear. The story was also really well done and one of the few times I've ever witnessed a really unlikable scrub of a character actually grow into a wonderful person. Neku's arc is really well done. Skiki and Joshua are both just awesome and my favorite thing about KH:3D was the cast making an appearance.
I loved the fact this game was truly tailor made for the DS and really showed how all of the system's features could be used to make a fun game. The OST is pretty damn snazzy and I loved how the game even let you control what was playing as you explored, so you could listen to your favorite tracks whenever you wanted.
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Originally Posted by Pumpkin
You know, guys, that's nothing to brag about. You should get to it! :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJQuote:
Originally Posted by Pumpkin
Who's bragging? Just commenting
Then I wouldn't be able to brag about anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by The White Wizard of FynnYou know, guys, that's nothing to brag about. You should get to it! :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJQuote:
Originally Posted by Pumpkin
What do you say, Fynn? I say we give them one year to play this game. Fail, and they shall face erasure.
Edit: them = everyone who has not played it.
*sigh* Alright Scott. Go have your fun. So what's their reward this time around, Game Master?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty_ffgamer
They beat the game, then they have played through one of the best games the DS has to offer. I say that's reward enough. Also, 1 moogle hug each.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty_ffgamer
Pumpkin, ToriJ - find your parter, don't get lost; let the Reaper's Game begin :radred:
I want you to know that since you've started this list, I've bought Radiant Historia and Tactics Ogre. I also still have FF Tactics and Bravely Default that I have not played much of. I should get on that once I finish Persona 2 (almost done with Innocent Sin I think). So many RPGs, and I definitely don't have the time for all of these long games.