America - Bastion of Evil???

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

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You know... kindness - it still exists in the world

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No it doesn't.


I haven't been following this debate, but I will say this. No one country, given the power that America has, would do anything morally. Yeah, America is incredibly immoral and we have done some incredibly inexcusable things (especially over the last four years) but if ANY of you are stupid enough to believe that your country would act differently... well, all I can say is that you are an idiot.

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yeah pretty much every country is immoral except for Canada.




Canada sucks.

On the government level, I don't belive thier is kindess.

Look at what runs the governemnt though, the people. Even moreso than money. You can't get voted in with out the vote right? I am sure that when us American's voted for Bush - we wieghed the conciquences. At that time - the concetration was for the freedom of Iraq. Both presidencial canidates would say that they are in it for kindness, or to do the right thing - but you know that is BS. (one in the oil biz, and one's wife in the Heinz ketsup biz) Still, moreover, the American people do care what is going on in Iraq. We hang our heads in the deaths of soilders, and citizens alike. I am ashamed at our government myself, but I still have faith in the country.

When I see that terrorists kill a buncha kids who are getting food from a supply truck it sickens me. I really believe in the change and I am glad that it is getting done. ITs the underlying shat that pisses me off. I can't sit here and say that I know 100% of the underlying logic and motivation that runs the world. I am sure that there is a lot going on here that we don't even know about. Not I, not Cloud no. 9 (though i commend you for keeping updated on things), not Hacifuchi, lionx, or even nic0tine. The only uncertentise we have, are the thoughts of others. We only know what we see and what happens - forsight is a risky business to live off. So all I can say is that weather you are American, Scotitsh, or even Nigerian - just disbain all other "unknown thoughs" and do what is right by you when it comes to voting and being active.

If we are to blame anything for the "demoralization" of america blame the press. They are the ones who research all the infomation and deliver it to us on the back page of the paper - or hidden in the archives of a site. I think there are only a few mainline newstreams that are even close to fufilling the jobs of the press anymore. What?! Linsee Lohan has implants! :rolleyes2

Thats about it for now
Bipper :sleepy:

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Originally Posted by bipper

On the government level, I don't belive thier is kindess.

Look at what runs the governemnt though, the people. Even moreso than money. You can't get voted in with out the vote right? I am sure that when us American's voted for Bush - we wieghed the conciquences. At that time - it was for the freedom of Iraq. Both presidence would say that they are in it for kindness, or to do the right thing - but you knwo that is bs. Still, moreover, the American people do care what is going on in Iraq.

When I see that terrorists kill a buncha kids who are getting food from a supply truck it sickens me. I really believe in the change and I am glad that it is getting done. ITs the underlying shat that pisses me off. I can't sit here and say that I know 100% of the underlying logic and motivation that runs the world. I am sure that there is a lot going on here that we don't even know about. Not I, not Cloud no. 9 (though i commend you for keeping updated on things), not Hacifuchi, lionx, or even nic0tine. The only uncertentise we have, are the thoughts of others. We only know what we see and what happens - forsight is a risky business to live off. So all I can say is that weather you are American, Scotitsh, or even Nigerian - just disbain all other "unknown thoughs" and do what is right by you when it comes to voting and being active.

If we are to blame anything for the "demoralization" of america blame the press. They are the ones who research all the infomation and deliver it to us on the back page of the paper - or hidden in the archives of a site.

I think there are only a few mainline newstreams that are even close to fufilling the jobs of the press.

Thats about it for now
Bipper :sleepy:

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bull crap because corporations run the government.All these lobbying groups dude you think the people directly run this gov. Then you must be pretty naive man.

but other than that i agree with what you say/

Sorry man - i edited the post a lil.. I am a bit tired and relized it needed revising. Anyways the coparations have infiltrated and do run the government. What i am saying is they need an act of kindess to get their votes - reguardless. So they will lobby as being kind, and the best choice for your children/wallet/ goldfish whatever is important. Its just a BS ploy so that they can get in the white house. So to say that americans are unkind is just wrong. . Its the asshole that cons our votes that ruins it for all of us.

I blame the press and the lack of intrest in the press for this. F^^^ celebrities; gimmie the news.

Edit: Yes, I am pretty naive though.
Bipper

I can't even read this thread.

Why does this thread still exist.

I don't know. It appears that General Stupidity has reinforcements. I think we should fall back lest we risk the intellectual harm that merely listening to them could have.

I'm closing this thread, I think the "why" there is obvious. If you all want to try again in a civilized manner, give it another go.