It's just a precaution so that people don't get bit by her wit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destai
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It's just a precaution so that people don't get bit by her wit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destai
You must've sent your brain to the same repair shop Traitorfish's sarcasm radar went to. lolololzQuote:
Originally Posted by Destai
If there's a magical seventh layer of the atmosphere composed entirely of water, then how did the space program get through it without any trouble? Or are you going to theorize that the satellites and moon landings don't really exist? And if it's possible for the entirety of this atmosphere to torrent down and hit Earth, why hasn't it happened again? Oh right. It's a miracle.
There is absolutely no evidence that any of the stuff you theorized actually happened. It's entirely based on faith, and the word of the Bible... which, again, you have to take on faith, because there certainly isn't much scientific evidence pointing towards most of it.
I'm still waiting for this so-called "evidence" on Creationism, and a response to my assertion that Matthew 4:8 implies the Earth is flat.
I thought you said Genesis never became any less true? Hmm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
Actually, there isn't enough water in the ice-caps and the atmosphere for that. Even if all the water on earth was in liquid form, the sea levels would not rise by over half a dozen miles.Quote:
Where did it come from? How about the seventh layer of our atmosphere? Where'd it go? How about the ocean, for one? (By the way, it's believed that the weight of the water pushed up the earth in different spots, so Everest wasn't as high before the flood.) Where's the evidence? Why are there fossilized sea creatures on top of Mount Everest? Why are they stuck in the ice, many feet below the surface? They weren't put there by climbers.Quote:
The flood covered the highest mountain tops (Mount Everest?) with fifteen cubits to spare (Genesis 7:20). Where did all the water come from? Where did it all go? Why is there no evidence of such a massive flood in the geological record?
Besides, Everest fossils are due to continental shift. There is no way that the rock they are buried in could have floated up there. (The fossils pre-date any human activity by a good few hundred million years, so couldn't have been left during the flood.) No amount of water can carry the kind of rock that everest is made from. Rocks, rather patently, do not float.
Actually, no. Moses simply re-wrote existing folk-tales. After all, the creation story pre-dates Moses by thousands of years.Quote:
The author of Genesis was Moses. And it doesn't mean he believed genetic characteristics are determined by what the parents see at the moment of conception, it means he believed God worked a miracle...in his goats.Quote:
Jacob displays his (and God’s) knowledge of biology by having goats copulate while looking at streaked rods. The result is streaked baby goats (Genesis 30:37). The author of Genesis (God?) believed that genetic characteristics of the offspring are determined by what the parents see at the moment of conception. This is a laughable belief. Ask any animal husbandrist.
EDIT: The Flood, like the creation, is a metaphor. It means 'Be good, or God will kick yo' ass, sucka!' Only less annoying, and more God-ish.
HAs anyone noticed that the flood (water) and armageddon (fire) are similar. Traditionally, fire and water are the great cleansers.
I don't have a religion, but is that itself a religion?
What is deemed offensive is very relative. The best we can do is go by our own interpretations. These of course won't be agreed with by everybody. I hope those of you who disagree with them can either respect our judgements and move on, or find another message board that better adheres to your ideologies.
I think everybody should just hold hands, stop bitching, and sing kumbaya
I DONT BELIEVE IN THAT SONG
Well your SOL go kill yourself
=Catholicism
I have read just enough of the new posts to know that I love nik0tine.
Anyway, this was amusing (in my usual "humanity is stupid" type of manner), but not it's just getting retarded. Let's at least get our facts straight.
1. Evolution is a fact. Let's just get that out of the way first.
2. Evolution requires no faith; it merely requires eyes and a brain. Most Creationists are lacking the latter.
3. Intelligent Design is not a valid theory, unless you use the laymen's use of the word, which basically means "guess."
4. Evolution is a valid theory, which means it has so far been proven right.
5. Even though evolution is a fact, it is not a law, nor will it ever be.
6. There is no six.
Evolution is a fact of existence. We have observed it. Anyone who has taken a simple high school biology class would know this. Microevolution was proven way back in Mendel's time. Macroevolution by definition is "microevolution + time." Since both microevolution and the progression of time are also facts of existence, then macroevolution is a fact of existence. Macroevolution has no scientifically drawn line, though for convenience's sake, it's usually drawn at speciation - which has been observed.
Creationists say "most parts of the evolutionary theory are unproven." Like what? Blank. "You can't prove macroevolution from microevolution." Why not? Blank. ""Evolution requires faith." How? Blank. Gross generalizations, and when asked to specify, can't actually name anything.
Intelligent Design is creationism with a retarded name. It lies on the idea that, well, even though evolution happens, it couldn't have possibly resulted in the diversity/complexity of life we see today. Science estimates that life first appeared on this planet in its simplest form some 3 billion years ago. Yes, I think 3 billion years is enough time, as do tens of thousands of scientists.
I have more to say, but I just lost my motivation to continue. Either way, Creationism is based on an irrationality, so simple logic has no chance against it anyway.
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Since I'm a Christian I'll hold hands with you. However, I'll still feel awkward if you're black, Jewish, Mexican, Islamic, Catholic, Atheist, Asian, Female, gay, or sober.
lmfao, you have made this thread hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
I agree with Raistlin on most points. :monster:
This thread loses.
Farewell.
Because, genius, it isn't there anymore. It already came down. So there was nothing that the space program had to get through, and it won't come down again. I'm sorry, I didn't know you would have this much difficulty understanding it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
It changed. That doesn't mean it became less true. Are history books any less true, because things have changed since they were written?Quote:
Originally Posted by Traitorfish
First of all, as I said before, the earth wasn't as shapely then as it is now. The mountains weren't nearly as high, the seas weren't nearly as deep. The weight of the water during the Flood pushed down the sea bed and pushed up the mountains. And you can't honestly say that "continental shift" brought fossilized sea creatures hundreds of miles inland and thousands upon thousands of feet above sea level.Quote:
Actually, there isn't enough water in the ice-caps and the atmosphere for that. Even if all the water on earth was in liquid form, the sea levels would not rise by over half a dozen miles.
Besides, Everest fossils are due to continental shift. There is no way that the rock they are buried in could have floated up there.
I expected better from at least you, Raistlin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
1. Evolution is as fact as fact can be, while still being unproven, disproven, contradictory...and, well, even racist, and we all know how much the PC movement, while supporting Evolutionism, hates racism.
2. Since Evolutionism has not been proven, it requires faith to believe. Just like I have faith that my truck is still out in Lot Q since I parked it there twenty minutes ago. Unless I can see my truck, I don't know. Unless and until Evolution is proven -- which it will never be -- it requires faith to believe. But I guess that's hard for most anti-religion types to stomach.
3. Intelligent Design, while not supported (or, really, objected) by as much scientific evidence as Evolutionism, is still a valid theory in the same sense of the word. The problem is that most people are too set in their beliefs that nothing involves a god to listen to anything to the contrary -- just like they accuse Christians of being set in their beliefs. An even greater problem is that all too many people, in all beliefs, don't know why they believe what they do. Most Evolutionists believe it because it's what they were taught in school and doesn't involve god, and most Creationists believe it because it's what they were told to believe in church.
4. Evolution is a semi-valid theory. If it was so far proven right, there wouldn't be any evidence disproving it, or supporting any other theory.
5. If it was fact, it would be law. Or at least wouldn't have nearly as many arguments against it.
Like what? How about the link (or lack thereof) between micro- and macro-evolution? How about the "fact" that the earth is billions of years old?Quote:
Creationists say "most parts of the evolutionary theory are unproven." Like what?
You can't. Microevolution exists, yes, but would require much more time than the already outrageous amount of time some "scientists" say the earth has been able to sustain life. Not to mention, it's contradictory.Quote:
"You can't prove macroevolution from microevolution." Why not?
I've already explained this.Quote:
""Evolution requires faith." How?
I've got more to say, as I'm sure most of us do...but I've got more important things to do. G'night.
Hi there, Pharoh Amon Khan... Yeah, that's right, the "EOFF-Anti-Christ" is back...
I have been mistaken by many to be Nigerian, Arabic, French, Jamacian, Latino, Native American, and East Indian... And people naturally think I am of that or another religion.
I don't really sway the way of religion anymore. My father is a travelling Christian Minister and he accepts me for my beliefs in faith.
I don't like religion too much. When people ask me what is my religion I reply with rehearsed ease, as it's been asked to me before...
"I don't believe in religion. I believe in faith. When I ask someone of another ethnic culture I ask them what is their faith, NOT their religion. Religion is a set order of the way of practicing belief or faith. As a child my father travelled with his family in tow to various churches preaching his open-minded way to Christian Churches. Black, White, Asian, poor and rich... In each of these churches, as a child I attended Sunday School and each varied, teaching the same gospel, but denouncing the ways of the former churches as if "their" way was right.
I was raised a Christan, but what if I went to church out of town that was Christian but Eposcial Christian? I was finding God, but not "Their" way.
Because when you get down to it; when one has lost everything, love, family, materials, all one has is faith. Be it in a high powerful deity, or just in one's self... We all need, and all we are left with is... faith.
Go with Faith, because no matter what way you do it, you worship with Faith, there is no instruction book except in your heart where the love of your faith is born.
"You don't have to understand it; you just have to have it." -Aquaman "Justice League"
Wow, it's the Pharoh.
I have faith in myself.
It's hard to prove anything that we didn't directly observe.
So I'm I :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seymour_Guado_Goth
Power Catholic. I say I'm Catholic, I know moe about the religion than most, but I haven't been to church in about 6 years. I'm only Catholic by name. Am I proud? I really couldn't care less.