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The administrator/moderator status is there for good reason. Banning Kishi as an alternative to admitting that Peter and others probably shouldn't have been banned is NOT good reason.
Of course it's not. But banning him because it's the right thing to do according to EoFF's values and principles for the past 5 1/2 years is. I couldn't give a damn about Peter.
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As someone who has moderated and administrated discussion fora in the past I feel that what was done to Kishi was unjust.
Unjust? He broke the rules, he's responsible for his own actions, and, according to what Staff has said on numerous occasions, staff members are subject to the rules just as much as other members. You may have staffed on other forums, but other forums have different rules and policies.
It was unjust not to even consider punishing Kishi for breaking the rules - not even a suspension or anything. But a freebie because the Staff didn't want to punish him.
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But the same cannot be said in a discussion forum, and to be a good authority figure in a forum, you can't take yourself, or the idea of a forum, too seriously. I think in in this case, Kishi was hurt because some were taking themselves and this forum business a bit too seriously. Like ShlupQuack said, get outside and find out what's actually important. This stuff certainly isn't. Not important enough to condone what happened.
NOT banning Kishi because it's only a forum and thus it doesn't matter if the rules are bent is not a good reason. If it's "only a forum" then his contributions to it hardly matter, and it wouldn't really matter if he was banned. Your side says "get a life" because we take EoFF too seriously, well, if you're willing to throw basic rules and principles aside for Kishi, then I think you're taking things too seriously as well.
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The administrator/moderator status is there for good reason.
Status? You talk as if being a moderator is a privilege. It's a responsibility.
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The insta-ban rule probably looked good when the rules were written up, but there comes a time where you have to realize: life's not black and white enough for no-exceptions uniformity to work all the time. Pornography = ban is a good idea, a good guideline, but snow penises and Masamune Shirow artwork? Give me a fricking break.
Wait...now you're defending Peter?
Oh, and I agree by the way. However, an exception should not be made for one person where one wasn't made for another. Period.
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I think Kishi should get an apology for this silliness before you guys kill EoFF even more.
According to many others, including ex-staff, we're not the ones killing EoFF.
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I dunno, I saw the image, too--I don't think it was borderline, I think it was well over on the "OK" side of the line.
You're the only person who's said that. The Staff admitted that anyone else would be banned for it...but not Kishi? I would agree whole-heartedly if the image would be okay for everyone to post.
Staff made it clear time and again that no one was an exception to the rules outside of Cid - both administrators and moderators alike. But then all of a sudden that doesn't apply?
Staff said the image was "border-line," however, also admitted that anyone else who posted that same image would be banned. So obviously, the image is not "border-line", it's only that way for Kishi. Which isn't right.
Staff members accept the responsibility of upholding the rules. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, especially staff members. Saying that people who've been around long enough are not responsible for their own actions is absurd.
This'll be the last post I make on the subject. Why bother? According to Staff, the members' opinions don't matter. Well, at least, that's what Shlup's said over and over again.
