She's not even read the books, so good luck with that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
I promise I'm being truthful and will point out to you when it happens. In the meantime, enjoy the show!
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She's not even read the books, so good luck with that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
I promise I'm being truthful and will point out to you when it happens. In the meantime, enjoy the show!
Breaking Bad SpoilerTo be fair, the entire purpose of the show was to turn the protagonist into the antagonist by the end. It's what makes it so interesting. I've gone from rooting for Walt to being horrified by the things he does and the ways he reacts. It's really a testament to just fantastic writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill
Yes, I understand that, didn't really need to explain it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ouch!Breaking Bad SpoilerTo be fair, the entire purpose of the show was to turn the protagonist into the antagonist by the end. It's what makes it so interesting. I've gone from rooting for Walt to being horrified by the things he does and the ways he reacts. It's really a testament to just fantastic writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill
Also, Breaking Badhttp://i47.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:...u:/33yhrbn.jpg
I've read them. Thanks!
But hes right saying anything will spoil!
Pike can I ask what made you tense? Between Cat exchanging wedding jokes with Lord Bolton and Robb flirting with Talisa, I almost thought they werent going to go through with it.
And GRRM has stated in multiple interviews that it's D&Ds show, he hasn't even been to the set in years. When he writes his episode, they give him an outline, and his script is heavily edited before being shot.
im starting on the books now. i always prefer to read after the tv show/film.
ive made the mistake once to read a harry potter book before the seeing the film... it completely ruined the film for me
I don't understand that, for instance reading LOTR is by no means essential but it didn't stop me really enjoying the films. It certainly didn't ruin them. Ditto other very good adaptations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaibana
You are all overlooking the fact that the 2 best characters are still alive and well.
Stannis & Davos.
Because the Harry Potter books are so much better than the movies? Or at least some of the movies. I actually think the movies got better as they progressed. But certainly they weren't the best of adaptations.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayiI don't understand that, for instance reading LOTR is by no means essential but it didn't stop me really enjoying the films. It certainly didn't ruin them. Ditto other very good adaptations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaibana
I like reading books before I watch an adaptation. It gives you a fuller picture of everything and probably a better understanding too. But sometimes, if the adaptation is crap, it just makes it that much worse to watch. It's the reason I won't be watching the World War Z movie. The book was excellent. The movie looks like horse dung.
On the flip side, I like Game of Thrones as a show way more than what I read of the book.
book 5Yup. Jhaqo.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC
In the books, the laws of hospitality were established as one of the most ancient, most sacred codes. Part of the RW's effect was thanks to that, I think - like most people, I could tell something was wrong and that the new alliance would be terribly shaky at best, but I was deeply convinced that whatever happened, they wouldn't do anything there and then with the guests protected by these ancient unwritten laws. It was such a terrible taboo being broken, and I kind of wish that got translated to the show, but I think that the light mood was something of a supplement to display that sense of safety that the characters were feeling, despite the tension being as high as it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
The whole thing had a dark sense of foreboding to it and when the song kicked in it really upped it even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
Also I'm curious why you're asking me in particular when I was in the middle of a string of like six people saying they liked the scene. :p Ask all of them too.
So Arya decided to do her own reaction video to the Red Wedding, in a style that I can only explain as a combination of redneck and hyperactive 12-year-old girl. It is worth it just for her facial expressions.
I was gonna quote you but I was on my mobile and it didn't go through, so I just wrote your name!Quote:
Originally Posted by PikeThe whole thing had a dark sense of foreboding to it and when the song kicked in it really upped it even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
Also I'm curious why you're asking me in particular when I was in the middle of a string of like six people saying they liked the scene. :p Ask all of them too.
Just watched it. As a non-book reader, I cried. I'm not using hyperbole. I really, was saddened by the entire thing. I felt most sad for Catelyn though. I really connect with her as a character, and the fact that her son, and his son's wife (who she did bond with towards the end and respected her) died, well. She didn't have long to grieve, anywho.
The entire episode had hints of foreboding however. The line Robb gives where "it is treason to strike a lord" when Talisa lovingly attempts to smack him was one hint. Another hint was the thunderstorms throughout as well, giving even more foreboding. What was worse was that I didn't notice these at first. The first half of the episode (essentially from the start till the end of the bedding ceremony) was joyful, and even humorous. It led you up into thinking that all was well, but then real concerns screamed at you. The closing of the doors. Catelyn's concerned face. Roose Bolton's chainmail and general demeanour, and the fact he wasn't drinking. As soon as I noticed the doors closing, I knew something was going down.
And boy, am I bloody miserable. I never felt this sad in a GoT episode. Even Ned Stark's beheading was more interesting than saddening. I couldn't even watch most of the slaughtering. I sort of had it in the corner of my eye and listened instead. Catelyn's final plea was literally heartbreaking. I don't know how to react or how to think. It is probably the most surprising episode in quite awhile. Now, obviously, it being Episode Nine, I was expecting drama as GoT loves making the ninth episode it's climax with a denouement in the tenth. But even so. I was perhaps expecting a death or two, but not the entire Stark family unit. What made it worse was that guest right was invoked from the first minute. I mean, seriously. I'm pretty sure the Freys are not going to get off lightly for this. But it was really the Boltons who were the main betrayers and masterminds (together with the Lannisters, but then, you can't blame them for wanting to damage the enemy). The Freys are the public face of this event, but I doubt the Boltons will be revealed as a culprit. Unless I'm missing something, of course.
I've still got my heart pounding and I know I am rambling but I don't care. I did like how the entire episode focused only on Starks. Jon, Bran (who has been woefully obscure this season: then again, all he's doing is travelling) and of course Robb/Cat. Oh, and Dany. I didn't like Dany's segment really in this episode and I find the Dany's lovefest with Daario slightly unsettling. She doesn't seem like someone who relies on someone and is quite independent, but she's so worried over him! Sheesh, he's been in your army for like 10 minutes. I'm beginning to lose interest in Dany once again because of this though. I found her presence in the episode distracting rather than complementary. I would have preferred it focus solely on the Starks. They all end on cliffhangers: Jon's escape, the Red Wedding, and to a degree the Bran storyline where he wargs for the first time and Osha leaves with Rickon. They all ended on cliffhangers with leave me wanting more. Mytha (isn't that what the next one's called?) is going to epic.
I'm still going on aren't I? Nevermind. Oh! I missed out Arya! Of course. Make that four Stark storylines. The build-up scenes with the Hound was good and consolidated Arya's hate for him. Which then sort of makes it ironic because he ends up saving her life. He could have just let her run off into the Twins castle, but, he forcefully makes her leave. He didn't have to, but it does show his sense of duty and/or 'kindness', at least towards minors anyway. But again, cliffhanger.
I should seriously stop now, but basically, that was epically sad. The silent credit sequence was perfect because I'm lost for words too.