Yeah, I've got to say that Unknowns' summary is pretty accurate. Funny stuff. At least Future's theories were actually productive in the skit.
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Yeah, I've got to say that Unknowns' summary is pretty accurate. Funny stuff. At least Future's theories were actually productive in the skit.
Narrator:Our heroīs went to an art gallery.They start to see a very funny picture.
Xaven:Wow,what a great picture.
Future Esthar:At least I can see that there is at least one angel painted.
Squall of Seed:Not again.
Crazybayman:Canīt see any angel.
Xaven:The guide explains that this paint is only about many children playing on a rose field.
Future Esthar:But canīt you see the wings?It is a symbol of the happiness on the spring.Of course the guide donīt wanna to explain everything but he wanna you to look for yourself the deep of the picture.He just gives you clues to start with.
Squall of Seed:I even read an external guide which confirms what this guide says and additional information which contradicts what FE says.
Crazybayman:Itīs just a bug you know?Painters werenīt perfect.Maybe the paint getīs blurred on these.Look,there is a signature on the picture.Now did this mean that the angel gives a vision to the children in which they start to see letters floating on midair?Of course not.
Xaven:Why would the painter draw a simple picture of children playing on the field and then completely change it to have a complete religious meaning?It donīt makes sence.
Future Esthar:Why not?
Squall of Seed:God Future!!!!!There is no angel there.Give us some proof to back up your theories.They donīt fit well what has been said by the guides and history books about this picture.It donīt even fit what is said about in cultural TV programs.What the damn Hell!!!!!!!!!!
Crazybayman:You know,I used to be a painter myself.And I can tell you
that painters donīt just do things like these.They donīt just kept hidden things to be found on their paintings.Do you know the work needed just to made a single painting?
Narrator:Unknowns was there hearing their conversation.And suddenly Xaven spot her.
Xaven:Oh my God!Unknowns is there!!!
Future Esthar:I thought paintings like these were supposed to have a hidden meaning.Better,I am sure they were.Cultural programs also say this.
Squall of Seed:Calm down!I think that she come in peace.
Crazybayman:Why would the painters keep it so secretive that only you will be able to interpret it?That donīt makes any sense at all.
Unknowns:Well,Ulti also has wings hasnīt her?Rinoa also.Icarus also.Count Dracula also.Ogre from Tekken 3 also.So It can also be Ulti scaryng the Seed children who plays at the flower field near the orphanage.You look to deep into things.
The End
Gamer:Well,it couldnīt be worst than that eyes on whatever forums.
Is it the right name?Or is it Eyes Far From Open Minded Persons Forums.
I remember vaguely this history happening there.
Me:Hey,I am kidding.I love this Forum and all the members here.No offense.
OK, everyone's entitled to their oun opinion, but Future Esthar, your topics tend to cross the line between "Opinions" and "BS". If the only backup you have to your zany theories is for ppl to be open-minded, u should spend more time replaying FF8, and less time pumping out topics about how u think Zell is secretly a silverback gorilla.
Hey! Only Unknowns is allowed to write those stories! :cry: Oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
There is a difference between a painting resembling angel's wings and throwing a story in a blender for six years and seeing what sentances might comes out.
I can see that you have worked very hard on coming up with your theories (fanfiction?), but many a time, they don't make sense or have any backing. They just don't work.
PS: Squall of SeeD is much more rational and grammer conscious than portrayed in your story.
Yep, only Unknowns can write those.
And Future, there is a big difference in a painting and a video game for crying out loud. Many times a painting is meant to have hidden meaning (OMG WTF??? CRAZY BAYMAN IS NOT CLOSE-MINDED).
By calling all of us close-minded, your completely wrong. We're just not retards. ;)
Narrator: And so the heroes continued their jounery once again.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Xaven: This dungeon's pretty creepy, unlike those flashy one we used to go.
Future Esthar: I will call those that we used to go "nightclub", my friend.
Squall of SeeD:........
crazybayman:SSShhhh, did you heard something?
Narrator: A humongous :tonberry: suddenly appear. It is more evil looking than any :tonberry: and it certainly more deadly than any :tonberry: since it carry a :monkey: instead of a normal knife....
Destai "self claimed WEAPON": GREETINGS.I AM DESTAI-WEAPON, THE MOST POWERFUL OPTIONAL BOSS IN THE GAME IF YOU BOTHER TO SCAN ME. YOU DUDE DUN STAND A CHANCE AGAINST ME AND I SUGGEST YOU RUN BACK HOME TO MAMA AND LEAVE ALL THE "ADULTS" MAGAZINES YOU HAVE WITH YOU BEHIND.
Xaven:NOOOO!!! Anything than my PRECIOUS COLLECTIONS!!!!!
Future Esthar: Do you think we will be afraid of you just because you added a word "WEAPON" behind your name like the past FF series optional bosses?????
Squall of SeeD:........
crazybayman: Ya!! And BTW, those are MY collections not yours!! You are underage for those.
Destai "self claimed WEAPON":FINE!! I WILL SHOW YOU THE TERROR OF DESTAI-WEAPON!!! I DESTAI-WEAPON, WILL KNOCK YOU ALL DOWN!!!!
Narrator: Destai "self claimed WEAPON" unleashed his :monkey: to attack the party.
Xaven:I heard that quote from somewhere before....
Future Esthar: It is what you usually say to the girls at the club during a drinking competion...
Squall of SeeD:......*started searching his pockets*
crazybayman: How much damage to you think this little fluffy creature can do? I will show him one of my own Shaolin drunken monkey style....OUUUCHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Narrator: The :monkey: unleashed his own Jackie Chan's amazing dancing monkey style "remix version" attack which deal 999999 damage to everyone in the party.
Xaven:Why alway 999999 damage like what Unknowns did? Man, talk about creative and yet we are still alive as usual!
Future Esthar: That is not the point! Think of something constructive will you!
Squall of SeeD:....*take out a guide book from his pocket*
crazybayman: Give me that, you "......." freak. Let's see, according to this "STEPS BY STEPS TO COMPLETED EVERY RPG", (idiot-proof and recongized by the self claimed "World RPG gamers associations for Dummies") We will just cast DEATH on him and he will be dead!!!! GYAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Destai "self claimed WEAPON": NO!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!! PRETTY PLEASE!!!! I WILL GIVE YOU MY LIMITED VERSION OF FF7 ADVENT CHILDREN "HENTAI" VERSION WITH A FREE WEBSITE WHICH YOU CAN DOWNLOAD HENTAI FOR FREE !!!!
Xaven: Download for free...*gulps*...should we reconsider..???
Future Esthar:There are other sites that you can download them for free, I used to visit them myself.....THAT IS NOT THE POINT HERE!!! SOMEONE CAST DEATH ON THAT :tonberry:.
Squall of SeeD:.....can't use magic..... :grumble:
crazybayman: Speak for yourself, aren't you the black mage around here? If you can't then no one can. So.....*gulps*(oh my god, here that :monkey: comes...) NOOOO!!! NOT THERE,not on the face!!!!NOOOO!!!
Narrator: And so the party is once again wiped out.....by a...:monkey:....
THE END
Look, not all guides are "accurate" like what I wrote in my story. Like how they give a strategy on how to defeat a certain monster but you still ended up getting your ass kicked. The guidebook served as a guideline and important references to the game which it is up to us to anaylsis the truth behind it by logical explainations, proper execution and base on it we make assumptions, so that is why we used it as PROOFS.
You just said it yourself. If all painting have hidden meanings, I just give some of mine while you give some of yours. Anyone can interpret it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Look, we have different views and opinions and does that mean that those have different opinions and views from you are narrow minded and so called "whatever" members. We give our opinions and views and even bother to go look for proof to support it instead of just swearing and cursing. If that is the case, you are the "whatever" member from my point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
PS: BTW, Squall of SeeD hardly talks in the story, that's what make him a character.
You should work for Square Unknowns! :p
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowns
Just because we don't agree with your theories, because we feel they don't correctly link to the game without altering the plot or the dialogue, it doesn't make is narrow-minded.
As I said before, we've debated things apparent hidden things like R=U before, and upon weighing the ingame facts that support it, and those that don't, most of us (or so it seems) have come to the conclusion that R DOES NOT = U (as an example, I know that's not your argument this time, its just an example).
There's no need to accuse people of being narrow-minded just because we don't agree with you.
I never said you are close minded because you donīt agree with my theories.Never said such a thing.Different open-minded persons can have different interpretations.
But i explained to you it was not a discrete thing but a continuous thing in the sense that you are open minded but in little quantity.
By the way the most the farfetchedtness of the story you are willing to believe the more open minded you are.Thatīs obvious because one canīt really proof something entirely on the game.
One has to decide by themselves to which point he wanna to believe reasonably on a theory.The point he is willing to go defines his open mindedness.
Oh wow, thank-you for the compliment. At least I'm open-minded, even if it is in small quantities. Oh thank you so much, I didn't realize I was worthy. :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
You're actually beginning to sound arrogant. You're actually so clueless, that you think your the only one that's open-minded enough to figure out your silly theories, and that everyone else is open-minded, but only in small quantities, and therefore we can't follow a continuous theory.
It must be like advanced calculus, huh? :rolleyes2 Only you are open-minded enough to follow your theories. Wow. Thanks Dr. Odine. :rolleyes2
I can follow all your so-called theories. I understand what you say, and I'm open-minded enough to piece together what your saying. It just doesn't fit with the story, and believe me, I, and everyone else here are all open-minded enough to see that. If it fit the storyline, I'd give you credit. But its just nonsense. There have been countless questions fired at you, which you still haven't answered, because they don't fit FFVIII.
It would seriously help if you addressed your questions clearly, and consisely. But you can't. Because they don't fit the storyline of the game, and therefore have no merit. You've attempted to return a few answers, partially, but then you go off on another tangent.
I am not being arrogant.Being open-minded is not being clever.It is being imaginative and fearless enough to say stupidity that canīt be proofed right nor wrong.But it can fit the story no matter what imagination is required to that.
So open-mindedness and cleverness were inversely proportional
(just in the case of FF).
So, what you're saying is stupidity? I'm gonna ignore that word since it's obviously not what you meant to come out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Haven't you been listening when we told you that it doesn't fit the story? The story says that Quistis is a SeeD instructer who just go demoted to an average SeeD and Selphie is a transfer student from Trabia who just passed the SeeD exam (neither of which are sorceresses), Julia is Rinoa's mother who died when Rinoa was young (not Edea and Ultimecia), and that time compression sets in after defeating Sorceress Adel when Ellone sends Rinoa's conscience along with Ultimecia's into the past; not anywhere else. It doesn't fit the story unless you ignore it and use your imagination to shove some ideas around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Why do you say that? Sure, being clever and being open-minded are different things, but sure as hell aren't opposites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Narrator: And the final battle with Unknowns commence...as the four warrior of light decide the fate of all toliet papers in the world....Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
Xaven: Again? I wonder what's the catch this time....
Future Esthar: Finally, you are starting to think deeply like me!
Squall of SeeD:....... :nonono:
crazybayman:Let's not get Future started......
Unknowns: You morons can never beat me cause I wrote this STORY!!! Losers!!! Nah nah nah boo boo boo!!!
Narrator: So both sides clashed with each other as they unleashed their best attack against each other hoping to get their desired outcomes.....and so....
Unknowns: Told ya!!! You losers can't beat me cause I am also the "X" in this story!!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Xaven: Alas, we lost....but at least I stole her wallet. So that make us even!!
Future Esthar: You only stole the wallet? I stole all the undergarments she is wearing...opps.....PG 13...
Squall of SeeD:.........*unleashed Lionheart against Unknowns and knocked her down*
crazybayman:You sometime do impress me by the surprise you give....
Unknowns: Wait!!! Dun kill me!!! I have something to say!!!
Xaven: Not this again!
Future Esthar: Ya, this is lame! You alway use this trick to turn the tables around, not fair!
Squall of SeeD:..........
crazybayman: Fine, Fine, just say it. I am already prepared for the worst....Amen.*started charting prayers*
Unknowns: Look, can't you be a bit open minded and look at this situation, I stole the toliet paper so the people will understand the IMPORTANCE of what they have neglected and start treasuring them and also people will start to look for new ways to replace the traditional toliet paper system with a more innovative and creative way. Considering what I am doing now a contribution to the improvement and advancement of both human society and technology in which will benefit the countless future generations after our times though I may be condenmed by countless but my deeds will forever be remembered.. :save:*Ray of Gold light started shining on Unknowns*:save:
Xaven:....I am touched by your great sacrifice to the human race..... :crying:
Future Esthar: I am loss of words.....sniff...and your undergarment smells good. *kept on sniffing*
Squall of SeeD:.........*started walking towards Unknowns*
crazybayman:This is just like hearing Hitler talking about democracy.....
Narrator: and Squall of SeeD stretched out his hand towards Unknowns....
:save:Unknowns:save:: You are willing to believe me? I..I...... *Teardrops start dropping like shining crystal falling from the sky*
Narrator: So unknowns stretched her hands to Squall of SeeD....
Xaven: Oh, I will cry a river if things go on like this.... :weep:
Future Esthar: A Happy ending....something is fishy..I could smell the stench....of course some came from the undergarments too....
Squall of SeeD:...........*grins*
crazybayman: for once I agreed with you, Future.
:save: :save: Unknowns:save: :save::so, ahh, can you cast Full Cure on me so i can get recovered and of course I will not try to backstab you guys, never will I do that. Ya, You can trust me!!! Hahahaha, Huh?
Narrator: Squall of SeeD drew out his sword and beheaded Unknowns....
Xaven:...........I must say that is pretty savage and rated for violence......
Future Esthar:..........I need to go see my family psychiatrist to get over this....
Squall of SeeD:Now this is the fun part......*started giggling*
crazybayman: I must say you do surprised me way too much, I am outta here.
THE END
Just something more to add, anything can fit into the story if you said it based in your IMAGINATION and willing or not in to believe your story doesn't make one more open minded or anything. Does that mean that if we believe pigs can sing "Eyes on me" being us open-minded? We choose whether we want to believe in your theory by analyzing the accountability of the situation of whether we choose to believe it in or not.
Oh my God,I was just giving a definition of "open mindedness on FF".I am not offending anyone anyway.
And,STOP MAKING UP THESE STORIES.I JUST WANNA TO SEE YOUR OPINIONS CLEARLY AND CONCISE.
I AM SICK OF THESE. :mad2:
Not in the case of a FF game in which one cannot proof things that werenīt explicit.Quote:
Why do you say that? Sure, being clever and being open-minded are different things, but sure as hell aren't opposites.
To Xaven-It fits the story.Quistis is a Seed instructor in Time Compression.Selphie is a transfer student in Time Compression.
Of course they donīt know they live on Time Compression.
Not even the gamer can proof it wrong.
In the storyline people learned that Quistis and Selphie werenīt sorceresses yet this can be false information.In the game every character can draw magic and use it so the possibility for Quistis and Selphie being sorceresses is open.
Julia is Rinoaīs mother and we donīt really see her dying so no one can proof this.Thatīs false information.
I know the exact place in which Squall and company were falling when "Time Compression" begins.There was not really a time compression after Squall defeats Adel.The Galbadians changed the walls of Lunatic Pandora so that it shows an holographic film when Squall and Company fall in one of Pandoraīs vertical corridors.
So the world of FF8 was always under TC with the exception of Ultiīs time.
The Pandora time traveled while Squall and Company fall.
It surrounds Ultiīs castle.
As you see my theories fit the storyline.Squall for sure donīt knows there is an holographic film and that the Pandora time travels.
Don't be mean about the stories! They're fantastic!
I have been following this thread. And, you say 'no gamer can prove it wrong', FE.
Well, you can't prove it right. What about all the unanswered questions that are still lying around? Are you avoiding them, cause they'll prove you wrong?
I don't believe a single word you have said. But, I admire you for thinking so much about the game.