KFC Cruelty.

Man, the way this thread was staying in GC made me think it was a good spam thread.

*sigh*

How disappointing. :\

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Originally Posted by Fantasy Fan

you are what you eat.
Vegetarians become skinny, green, stupid and defensless.
Meat eaters become big, powerful, intelligent and brown (tanned).

what would you be?

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Thats just what you think, its usually the people who dont eat vegetables that turn into fat lazy slobs. Fruit and Veg are more important than meat.
And I believe Popeye ate spinich to gain strength, not chicken wings...

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

We are omnivores. Not herbivores, nor carnivores. We need both vegetation, and meat to survive.

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So vegetarians don't exist then? Or are all about to die?

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No. I certainly didn't say that. You can get protein and iron from other sources, yes.

What I'm saying is that its perfectly natural for us to eat animals, being at the top of the food chain. And of course, to do that, we must kill animals, and they WILL suffer. Its nature taking its course.

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Originally Posted by Dreddz

Thats just what you think, its usually the people who dont eat vegetables that turn into fat lazy slobs. Fruit and Veg are more important than meat.
And I believe Popeye ate spinich to gain strength, not chicken wings...

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that's a frickin' cartoon!!! Eating spinach doesn't make you strong! Yeah there's a little iron in it, but certainly not the protein necessary to be strong. Sheesh.

To be strong like popeye, you'd definitely need alot of exercise, and a significant source of protein. The natural source, of course is animals. And one of the leanest, and most healthiest is chicken.

I didnt watch the video, I read the first page of this thread instead ... and Im not going near KFC again.

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Originally Posted by ~SapphireStar~

I didnt watch the video, I read the first page of this thread instead ... and Im not going near KFC again.

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Well you'd better stop eating all meat, for that matter, unless you humanely kill it yourself. Cruelty like that happens all the time, and not just in KFC farms.

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Well you'd better stop eating all meat, for that matter, unless you humanely kill it yourself. Cruelty like that happens all the time, and not just in KFC farms.

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Im aware of that, but sometimes I'd rather not think about it. Ive been eating meat all my life and I know cruelty such as that has been going on since before I was born. Its just when you read or watch something on the subject it makes you think.

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Originally Posted by ~SapphireStar~

Im aware of that, but sometimes I'd rather not think about it. Ive been eating meat all my life and I know cruelty such as that has been going on since before I was born. Its just when you read or watch something on the subject it makes you think.

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Yeah, but if the cruelty happens in most places and not just KFC, why only stop eating there? That's utterly pointless. If you honestly don't agree with what they do to the animals, then stop eating at all the places that do it. Stopping eating at KFC because you saw a video showing what they do there and knowing that they do it in other areas yet still eating at those places is stupid. If you don't want to think about it, carry on eating at KFC too.

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

To be strong like popeye, you'd definitely need alot of exercise, and a significant source of protein. The natural source, of course is animals. And one of the leanest, and most healthiest is chicken.

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The protein from soy beans is far better for you than any protein that is in meat, because it is virtually free of fat, an contains no cholesterol.

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Yeah, but if the cruelty happens in most places and not just KFC, why only stop eating there? That's utterly pointless. If you honestly don't agree with what they do to the animals, then stop eating at all the places that do it. Stopping eating at KFC because you saw a video showing what they do there and knowing that they do it in other areas yet still eating at those places is stupid. If you don't want to think about it, carry on eating at KFC too.

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Its not stupid and pointless. So I should stop going to my local butchers and Tesco then because they sell meat and may be cruel to the animals? No, I wont stop eating meat because I have eaten it my whole life, but I rarely go to fast food resturants. I was saying that I wont go to KFC again because from the sound of the video it sounded harsh. But it wont stop me eating meat all together. I just wont go to fast food resturants.

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Originally Posted by ~SapphireStar~

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Yeah, but if the cruelty happens in most places and not just KFC, why only stop eating there? That's utterly pointless. If you honestly don't agree with what they do to the animals, then stop eating at all the places that do it. Stopping eating at KFC because you saw a video showing what they do there and knowing that they do it in other areas yet still eating at those places is stupid. If you don't want to think about it, carry on eating at KFC too.

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Its not stupid and pointless. So I should stop going to my local butchers and Tesco then because they sell meat and may be cruel to the animals? No, I wont stop eating meat because I have eaten it my whole life, but I rarely go to fast food resturants. I was saying that I wont go to KFC again because from the sound of the video it sounded harsh. But it wont stop me eating meat all together. I just wont go to fast food resturants.

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From the way you said it, it sounded like you just meant you were going to stop going to KFC and no others, which is pretty stupid.

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

To be strong like popeye, you'd definitely need alot of exercise, and a significant source of protein. The natural source, of course is animals. And one of the leanest, and most healthiest is chicken.

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The protein from soy beans is far better for you than any protein that is in meat, because it is virtually free of fat, an contains no cholesterol.

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Yes, free of fat, and no cholesterol.

However, to get the amount of protein found in lean beef or chicken or fish, you'd have to eat ALOT of beans. Then spend the next 24hrs on the can. No thanks.

There's still no natural source of protein and iron that equals what's found in meat. Not to mention the other nutrients.

well if u dont eat the chicken, it was killed for no reason right?

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

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Originally Posted by Dreddz

Thats just what you think, its usually the people who dont eat vegetables that turn into fat lazy slobs. Fruit and Veg are more important than meat.
And I believe Popeye ate spinich to gain strength, not chicken wings...

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that's a frickin' cartoon!!! Eating spinach doesn't make you strong! Yeah there's a little iron in it, but certainly not the protein necessary to be strong. Sheesh.

To be strong like popeye, you'd definitely need alot of exercise, and a significant source of protein. The natural source, of course is animals. And one of the leanest, and most healthiest is chicken.

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I wasnt taking that Popeye thing seriously!
Anyways, while Vegetables dont contain protein or fat, they contain vitamins like vitamin B and vitamin C, fat soluble vitamins including vitamin A and vitamin D, and also contain carbohydrates and minerals.

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Most nutritionists claim that a diet rich in fresh fruit and vegetables but low in animal fat and red meat offers numerous health benefits, including a significantly lower risk of heart disease, cancer, renal failure and stroke. The American Dietetic Association, the largest organization of nutrition professionals, states on its website "Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer." The American Heart Association's website states "Many studies have shown that vegetarians seem to have a lower risk of obesity, coronary heart disease (which causes heart attack), high blood pressure, diabetes mellitus and some forms of cancer." Studies show that a vegetarian mother's breast milk has significantly lower levels of pesticide residue than a non-vegetarian's.

Some vegetable protein sources lack in one or more essential amino acids. For example, grains and nuts are low in lysine and legumes are low in methionine. Vegetarians get all the protein and amino acids they need from eating a normal variety of whole grains (whole wheat bread, oatmeal, brown rice), beans, nuts, and soy (tofu, veggie burgers/hotdogs, edamame, etc). The intake of such foods has to be larger since the protein percentage in these foods are comparatively lower than in a similar serving of meat. Attaining sufficient protein intake is rarely a problem in developed countries and the lower protein intake of vegetarians has even been suggested as a possible cause of some of the health benefits above. A vegetarian diet does not include fish - a major source of Omega 3, though some plant-based sources of it exist such as soy, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, canola oil and, especially, hempseed and flaxseed.

Studies endorsed by the ADA found that vegetarians had levels of iron or calcium similar to non-vegetarians. Some claim that Vitamin B-12 and zinc from vegetarian sources other than dairy products and eggs are not readily absorbed by the body and a vegan diet usually needs supplements.

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I hope those people who think torturing animals is wrong but eating meat is okay dont eat eggs. The only thing worse than being tortured to death would probably be having your offspring taken from you and eaten and far more inhumane and torturing to any parent. Sure the egg might "die" in peace

Im not going on any sides of this argument, just making a point, and I only semi belive my own point so dont go asking me for any back up proof.

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

To be strong like popeye, you'd definitely need alot of exercise, and a significant source of protein. The natural source, of course is animals. And one of the leanest, and most healthiest is chicken.

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The protein from soy beans is far better for you than any protein that is in meat, because it is virtually free of fat, an contains no cholesterol.

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Yes, free of fat, and no cholesterol.

However, to get the amount of protein found in lean beef or chicken or fish, you'd have to eat ALOT of beans. Then spend the next 24hrs on the can. No thanks.

There's still no natural source of protein and iron that equals what's found in meat. Not to mention the other nutrients.

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We don't just have to eat soy beans to get protein or iron. There are plenty of foods we can eat to obtain more than enough protein. The protein found in meat is more plentiful than the protein in a soy bean. But the protein in soy beans is better for you. Quality over quantity. From Wikipedia:
The American Dietetic Association, the largest organization of nutrition professionals, states on its website "Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer." The American Heart Association's website states "Many studies have shown that vegetarians seem to have a lower risk of obesity, coronary heart disease (which causes heart attack), high blood pressure, diabetes mellitus and some forms of cancer.
Vegetarians get all the protein and amino acids they need from eating a normal variety of whole grains (whole wheat bread, oatmeal, brown rice), beans, nuts, and soy (tofu, veggie burgers/hotdogs, edamame, etc). The lower protein intake of vegetarians has been suggested as a possible cause of some of the health benefits above.

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Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke

I hope those people who think torturing animals is wrong but eating meat is okay dont eat eggs. The only thing worse than being tortured to death would probably be having your offspring taken from you and eaten and far more inhumane and torturing to any parent. Sure the egg might "die" in peace

Im not going on any sides of this argument, just making a point, and I only semi belive my own point so dont go asking me for any back up proof.

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An egg is not the same as a baby. Women lose an egg once a month. Comparing an egg to a baby is like comparing a period to a mis-carriage. A chick is a chickens offspring, not an egg. Just like a baby is a human offspring, not just the egg itself.