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Shinra's gains are ill-gotten and underserved. But that doesn't give us the right to simply appropriate it - we become no better than they are. We can't simply take what we please because we think we're justified. We must do it the legal way, once we gain power.
Umm..you do know this is all for fun, right? I haven't made one serious post since this whole damn thing started. If all we're going to do is be stiff and formal, well, I may as well watch regular politics on TV, because it would be just as boring. -_-
Y so srs?
Perhaps you have a point, that imitating the actions of the invader is the same as approving of their actions and methods.
However, what we have here is a fundamental flaw in the system that only hides things away from us. It isn't theft as much as it liberation of funds. When the money belongs to us in the first place, it is merely balancing the scales to take it back. But, I suppose, if you do not wish to post in Shinra, I guess that will be fine. I'll just crawl back into the KH forums and die of boredom.
Perhaps your handling of funds will be different when you are in charge. But if I were running, and I will make transparently clear that I have no intention of doing so, that the money that is under my charge will be gotten to the people as quickly as possible. In order for an economy to maintain stability, money must move from point to point, changing hands quickly and aptly, in order to provide everything. Money made in this fashion is money made from the efforts of the people.
If you think about it, the money we got from Shinra is money that will go back to them in the form of taxation on the companies that are receiving our funds. So really, we would be giving them back their money, it just takes on a different form, changed hands, as it were. It is constantly in motion. I have not denied our Shinra enemies the opportunity to dine with us; the doors are open.
I cba with this. I'm done. :oscar:
No money has ever been stolen from the members here. All funds have been donated.Quote:
Care to explain where your part funds come from then? So far I have yet to aquire any funds whatsover, and have managed to campaign, so the next question is what are said party funds being used for?
Better yet, don't answer. I'll answer.
The funds you have were squeezed from the many of us who are under the firm grasp of the Machine, and that money goes to keeping the bellys and pockets happy of its many cogs and gears.
You say they steal your money? True, but the truth is also that every dime you possess was stolen from the people and used for selfish gain.
I, however, have not stolen nor used any money generated by the Machine.
Your two parties are currupt and tainted.
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The ShinRa currently do run the forums and nothing like that happens. Your update? The four members were thrown in jail for theft. Apparently Avalanche not only commits it, but you support it.Quote:
Mullet was only showing how easily Cid's Knights can abuse their powers. He was demonstrating what it would be like if Shinra ran EoFF. It would become fascist, with the media and voices controlled, threads being closed because they do not suit the needs of the Shinra agenda. EoFFers would lose their voices or be censored. This is what awaits EoFF if Shinra takes power.
EDIT: Update! Shinra just proves how they abuse their power by banning Momiji and Tavrobel. EOFFERS HEAR OUR CALL AND PROTEST THIS ACT! FIGHT FOR THE FREEDOM OF TAV AND MOMIJI! We will not be silent. A storm will brew upon the release of our comrads. This act will not be ignored. First DD, now these two. Have you no shame?
I would like to take the elections in a different direction for the time being. Yes, I am cross-posting this.
As of this moment, Avalanche members are forbidden to post in the Shinra Party thread. (no, this won't be permanent)
Instead, I would like you to turn your intentions inward - who will become the leader of Avalanche? Who would you like to see take the helm?
Candidates, here's a question just for fun. As Avalanche is from the northern forums, which include the Lounge, if you could describe your campaign to be leader with a song, what song would it be? (a link to it on youtube is optional but awesome!)
Just applied - hoping for victory. If I don't personally get it, we can hopefully crush the other guys together.
EWJ '08
This has suddenly stopped being fun. I'm out.
Marick D. Pauper here at the headquarters of the Avalanche Party. I've been running into individuals like Flying Mullet, Avanlache enthusiasts, as well as been hearing spats back and forth between Shinraists coming in to protest against the Avalanche movement. From what I have seen, it seems that the Avalanche movement has nothing at all to do with the movement of boulders. However, it does have everything to do with the undermining of the current administration in power. Here, we have learned that they want to limit the power of the Cid's Knights to minimal authorities. However, certain power removals seem to be stretching it a bit too far. Let's analyze.
Privacy
Viewing I.P. Addresses: Well, it's common knowledge that I.P. addresses are a very unique identifying moniker. Knowing this eliminates the chance of having second accounts being made by banned members, having multiple spam bots get registered from the same address. However, according to the Avalanche stance, it also wishes to strip the power to ban users and close threads, ultimately making this power useless in the end. So let's file this under the category of needless debate, since an I.P. address is useless if you can't ban. Sounds like filler debate matter to twist and spin the voter's opinion!
Viewing Birthdates: How is this even an issue? Without them being able to see birthdays, then we would have never had RSL day! Next.
E-mail Addresses: Will Cid's Knights be sending mass messages to privatized e-mail messages. So far, we have yet seen it, but who knows with people like Roogle and Psychotic as Cid's Knights. We can't rule out the possibility of this happening.
Power Authorizations
Banning Users: Cid's Knights ability to ban users would become obsolete under the Avalanche party's rule. While some members, not one I can think of off the top of my head, might not have been banned on just grounds, spambots would begin to run wild and flamers (not the gays) would be running rampant among the forums posting pornography in acts of expression. It is in the view of this reporter that, if anyone posts furry pornography, they should be banned and mocked for one full year, despite claims of self-expression. Regardless, the policy on this power from the eyes of this reporter commenting on Avalanche's policy views the view in the light of being up in the air. It goes along with the immigration policy. No one wants Gaia Online individuals around here. We all snub their kind, but then again, what sort of sight would we be if we don't encourage growth. But do we want to be rated PG for Pureghetto entertainment, or PSY, for Psychotic entertainment? The choice is yours.
Economy: Taxation and misrepresentation! TAXATION AND REPRESENTATION! All members paying for accounts to register and post, with oldbies being forced into a higher tax bracket, well, it just sounds like Avalanche might be trying to redistribute the power to all the useless members of the forum. Members like loony bob penetrated me, or i got the jibbles... They would be paying less fees than members like local chocobo Loony BoB, or DK. Even myself, if all my stupid accounts were added up, would be paying more than most individuals here, and while I can't say I support this, I also can't say I don't see a reason to get only the rich to post. After-all, why shouldn't only those who can afford to have the internet AND pay additional fees be able to access a Final Fantasy Message Board.
The War: Probably the most serious issue of all. GHF, a place God frequents often to tell what he hates now. Being a member of this community, I do see that this is indeed a great thing for us. Reparations are in order, but in fairness, Citizen Bleys and his crotch are terrible terrible individuals who tried to ruin the establishment of Eyes On Final Fantasy. While God Hates Fraggles offers a safe-haven for him, paying reparations to them can only resurge the power Dr. Unne and he has held, unless he is taken out and certain restrictions are placed upon their community. However, let's not forget the cost burden this war has put on us all here at Eyeson. However, is this enough reason to loosen our security? Not to mention that people like Raistlin frequent that place. Really, who wants to support anything affiliated with Raistlin...
With these facts stated, it is up to you, the voter to decide. With that, stay tuned to the Shinra Headquarters when, tomorrow, I Marick D. Pauper will be highlighting their platform and bringing the facts to YOU the voter.
I'm Marick D. Pauper. You stay classy Eyes on FF.
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Marick, we love you, by the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Momiji
Delightful! I am finishing up my application.Quote:
Originally Posted by Election Booth
It would obviously be Rock Me Like AHurricaneAvalanche!
Never Gonna Give You Up.