Wonder how people didn´t notice this.

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Oh my God,I was just giving a definition of "open mindedness on FF".I am not offending anyone anyway.
And,STOP MAKING UP THESE STORIES.I JUST WANNA TO SEE YOUR OPINIONS CLEARLY AND CONCISE.
I AM SICK OF THESE. :mad2:

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Speak for yourself. Who is the one that keep giving riddles here and there annoying the hell out of everyone and prove your theory with Maybe this, maybe that and refusing to just reveal everything in one shot. Also frequently just taking back what you say.

All my stories are relevant example of the rebuttles I have on your theory and if you feel frustrated and dun bother reading it, you will know how we feel when we read your theory and riddles.

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Not in the case of a FF game in which one cannot proof things that weren´t explicit.

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You cannot prove a single part of your theory with any concerte proof or explainations and just grumbling about how everyone is narrow minded while insisted that your theory can fit in which it is all based on your own deductions and so called imagination and claimed that it cannot be proven but convinced by you. This is just like some politicians trying to mind poison you in getting your votes by the fancy stories they make.

If that is the case, I can just simply create my own theory easily if this is how all theories is based on.

And my Yu Yevon/Hyne = "X" is a good proof of the theory you claimed to be a theory. And you are not open minded and is a "whatever" member if you refuse to believe in the theory even though you still have no rebuttle to overthrown this theory.

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To Xaven-It fits the story.Quistis is a Seed instructor in Time Compression.Selphie is a transfer student in Time Compression.
Of course they don´t know they live on Time Compression.

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Ya. Looks like everyone is already role-playing in the game instead of we doing the role playing.

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Not even the gamer can proof it wrong.

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And you can't proof it right either.

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In the storyline people learned that Quistis and Selphie weren´t sorceresses yet this can be false information.In the game every character can draw magic and use it so the possibility for Quistis and Selphie being sorceresses is open.

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ANYONE can DRAW magic if they have a GF junctioned.

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Julia is Rinoa´s mother and we don´t really see her dying so no one can proof this.That´s false information.

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And we dun see her living either and no one can proof her alive. And you are actually talking about "PROOF" here when you have none.

Example: We dun see Hyne in the game so this character Hyne is also false info?

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I know the exact place in which Squall and company were falling when "Time Compression" begins.There was not really a time compression after Squall defeats Adel.The Galbadians changed the walls of Lunatic Pandora so that it shows an holographic film when Squall and Company fall in one of Pandora´s vertical corridors.
So the world of FF8 was always under TC with the exception of Ulti´s time.

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Ya, so where is the Galbadian soldiers hiding all the way? How do they change the walls and how do you know all this? Also I dun see any link with time compression and changing the wall and I know you are going to answer with "this is to DECIEVE blah blah.." So we are playing a game that is decieving all of us or we brought it just to get decieved and enlighten by you?

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The Pandora time traveled while Squall and Company fall.
It surrounds Ulti´s castle.
As you see my theories fit the storyline.Squall for sure don´t knows there is an holographic film and that the Pandora time travels.

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Any fanfictions can fit into the story with their bizzare storyline and all stuff. But it is all words and solely based on words and nothing else.

I will post a story/example here and if you find it annoying you can dun read it and no offense here. It is just a story/example like how I was beheaded in the last one. :lol:

(SPOILER)
Narrator: One day, our heroes is resting under a tree.....

Xaven: Hey, I thought the game ended since Unknowns is dead.
Future Esthar: You know, something been bother me....
Squall of SeeD:........
crazybayman: Oh really...there is something in this world that can bother our number one resident conspiracy theorist here. Enlighten me please.

Narrator: and so Future told them what's been bother him...

Xaven: WHAT? You say you are actually the Reincarnation of Albert Einstein ????
Future Esthar: Ya...Look at me. I am so DIFFERENT from you lowlifes. I am so MUCH smarter and intelligent and I can prove it if you access the menu and see my stats for my intelligent. I have out of this world theories only to be condemned by the foolish ignorant worthless puny little carbon-based microscopic wastage like you all here. For I am the one, the one and only...:save:*HA LEH LOO YA* :save: ...will lead you to a world improved by my knowledge and wisdom with light shining upon the world and hope for the future generation....:save:*HA LEH LOO YA, HA LEH LOO YA....*:save: BUT..........
Squall of SeeD:........black mage have high intelligent....moron.... :hot:
crazybayman:Your theory just make my day, I think I can laugh myself to sleep tonight just thinking of this.

Xaven: So, what's with the "BUT" you added....Einstein.
Future Esthar: I am so particulary handsome and elegant and look nothing no where similar to that freak with a exploding hair. I have been pondering, am I a mixture of Einstein's intelligent and Squall/Laguna/Cloud/Sephiroth/Leonardo Di Caprio's look to even exist as a perfect human and only to be hated by of senseless mortals that is jealous. Opps. Sorry if I offended you.
:hot:Squall of SeeD:hot:......:hot::hot::hot::hot:*Squall of SeeD's limit break bar charged up"
crazybayman: No, allow me the honor, pls. Or I will have to live with the regret for the rest of my life. *Bring out a chainsaw from pocket*

THE END

Like the story told, the Einstein theory is simply the same here only to be supported with words from the theorist and insisted it fits in.

BTW, thanks to whoever out there that like my story.

Thanks Unknowns, I really enjoyed your story. Keep 'em coming! Your rational, yet comical posts have brought logical reasoning, and at the same time comic relief to this charade. Bravo.

Don´t picture me as arrogant because I am far from it.

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Don´t picture me as arrogant because I am far from it.

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I never say you are arrogant but if you mean the story then let me tell you something.

The story is PURELY FICTION AND ONLY USED AS AN EXAMPLE WHICH APPLIES TO EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER INSIDE THERE. The point is the gist of the story or should I say moral not the character of the people inside the story. Do you see Squall of SeeD replying post with : ".................."????

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Do you see Squall of SeeD replying post with : ".................."????

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Don't think it means he isn't thinking it, though.

Alright Future. If I offended you it is my bad and I :crying:apologize.:crying:.

I will change the name to my name if you want but the point is that you understand the moral of the story.

No offense.Thanks for appologizing :cool:

And if you dun mind answering my doubts on my post.

So, did you catch the gist of the story?

I was just saying that the scene in which Squall and company falls and start to see mixed images as bubbles,sea ,birds,fishes,etc... was not Time Compression beggining.
It was just an hologram (or wall film) created to made them think it was time compression.

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ANYONE can DRAW magic if they have a GF junctioned.

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How do you know everytime magic is passed between sorceresses they don´t have a GF junctioned?Soon I will make a thread just about this.I will show there were many fallacies on the game concerning sorceress magic.

By the way if we don´t see something on the game it don´t means it was not thruth.

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By the way if we don´t see something on the game it don´t means it was not thruth.

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Perhaps, but let's just stick to discussing what actually happens in the game. We realize there are inifinte possibilities to what can be, but that is not what this forum is about.

Well I always thought it symbolized Squall being lost in a world of Nothingness. Because Laguna told everyone that you cannot exist in the time compressed world without believing in others and others believing in you. And I think he was in some sort of Time Compressed magic since he went from the past to 'nowhere'. Then Squall goes insane and starts picturing things like how Rinoa said she had that dream... of seeing people.. or something.. well that's what I think.

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Well I always thought it symbolized Squall being lost in a world of Nothingness. Because Laguna told everyone that you cannot exist in the time compressed world without believing in others and others believing in you. And I think he was in some sort of Time Compressed magic since he went from the past to 'nowhere'. Then Squall goes insane and starts picturing things like how Rinoa said she had that dream... of seeing people.. or something.. well that's what I think.

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Why do so many people post after only reading the first page?

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ANYONE can DRAW magic if they have a GF junctioned.

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How do you know everytime magic is passed between sorceresses they don´t have a GF junctioned?Soon I will make a thread just about this.I will show there were many fallacies on the game concerning sorceress magic.

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My Rinoa didn't have a GF juntioned when she recieved her sorceress powers from Edea. Besides, what are you trying to get across with that arguement?

As for making a new thread, don't. (There are three theory threads already.) Many of us grow tired of you posting a tiny bit of your theory(ies?), us finding errors, you either ignoring them or simply taking back what you said, you posting another tiny bit of your theory(ies?), repeat.

I don´t ignore the errors.I explained them.You just assume WITH NO PROOF FROM THE GAME that all the things on the script were thruth.
By the way,Squall gets weak from being tired(he walked too much) and due to love deception(Squall think Rinoa had died on space that´s it).He didn´t knock out due to Time Compression.
And I never said Square lied.NEVER.NEVER.NEVER.NEVER ON THIS FORUM.
I just said they put characters telling lies but don´t create scenes in which other characters tell they were lying.
But they put scenes and graphical details in which a person can spot hidden thruths and lies.
Please go learn how to interpret texts and come back.

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I don´t ignore the errors.I explained them.You just assume WITH NO PROOF FROM THE GAME that all the things on the script were thruth.

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The game itself is the proof! How do you get proof from the game if not from the script which is where you get the entire story from?

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By the way,Squall gets weak from being tired(he walked too much) and due to love deception(Squall think Rinoa had died on space that´s it).He didn´t knock out due to Time Compression.

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So where's your proof for that? You keep demanding proof yet never give any.

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And I never said Square lied.NEVER.NEVER.NEVER.NEVER ON THIS FORUM.
I just said they put characters telling lies but don´t create scenes in which other characters tell they were lying.

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What about when you said the things in the game menu were lying? And how do you know when certain characters are lying? You have proof don't you? :rolleyes2 Square created FF8. You are saying the game lies. You are saying Square lies. Duh, transitive property. :rolleyes2

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But they put scenes and graphical details in which a person can spot hidden thruths and lies.

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How do you distinguish the two exactly? Oh and please, we are all dying to know how it is that you alone in the universe can spot these secrets.

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Please go learn how to interpret texts and come back.

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Please go learn how to write in correct English and come back.

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I don´t ignore the errors.I explained them.You just assume WITH NO PROOF FROM THE GAME that all the things on the script were thruth.
By the way,Squall gets weak from being tired(he walked too much) and due to love deception(Squall think Rinoa had died on space that´s it).He didn´t knock out due to Time Compression.
And I never said Square lied.NEVER.NEVER.NEVER.NEVER ON THIS FORUM.
I just said they put characters telling lies but don´t create scenes in which other characters tell they were lying.
But they put scenes and graphical details in which a person can spot hidden thruths and lies.
Please go learn how to interpret texts and come back.

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Well thats lovely but how is it only you can recognise what is a lie and what isnt? Theres never an event or another character to contradict the characters statements. And yeah FE, Sorry to shock you but its a video game. If a character states it unless at some point in the game its explained that the statement was false then you can assume its true.