Infant Deaths increasing in US

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Originally Posted by Renmiri

The plain fact is that the growing obesity and such have been raising for years yet infant mortality rate got it's first increase since 1958 under GW Bush. And note that well to do whites have obesity, diabetes and hypertension too yet their babies are not dying.

If you lived here in US you would know why: All federal funds for health care have been slashed to fund his two wars and 3 tax cuts for the rich. The weak and the poor are who suffer the consequences as we saw very well during Katrina.

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This makes me chuckle. I need for you to explain to me, without repeating the tripe youve previously spouted in other posts: How is Bush responsible for killing babies???

You say its because federal funds for health care have been cut, but as someone else said, Bush's word is not law. Things like that have to go through a complicated governmental process and many many other people to be approved, and they can all overrule Bush. Which means people who know a lot more than you(or me, to be less hypocritical) ALL agreed that the funds should be cut.

Um...yes white babies are dying. I also need you to explain how ONLY black babies can be killed. Is Bush Hitler now? Is he trying to eradicate the "damn dirty coloreds" by denying their children health care?

And people outside the US seem to understand things more clearly than those delusional Americans who cant keep their yaps shut.

I kill babies too, what are you going to do about it eh?

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Originally Posted by Acid Raine

How is Bush responsible for killing babies???

You say its because federal funds for health care have been cut, but as someone else said, Bush's word is not law. Things like that have to go through a complicated governmental process and many many other people to be approved, and they can all overrule Bush. Which means people who know a lot more than you(or me, to be less hypocritical) ALL agreed that the funds should be cut.

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Huh, first let's make clear, my first words on the thread were Party of life my arse! I am not saying one person is killing babies. I am talking a bout a President that has a staff and delegates decisions to this staff. Such decisions do go through Congress which until 4 months ago was controlled by the President's party.

If you understand how US government works you will know that it isn't true that ALL agreed that the funds should be cut. There were Senators and house representatives voting against it, yet the President's party, being majority, voted both to cut funds and to give out government money back to rich white people - the much vaunted "tax cuts - given away because "there was no need for more money".

Bush, the US President, his staff and his party said - and voted - that there was no need for health care for the poor, no need for equipping with body armor all soldiers sent specifically as terrorist bait - that's what fighting terror over there means - to the middle east, there was no need to shore up the levies at New Orleans and there was no need to plan evacuation for people who did not have a car.

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Originally Posted by Acid Raine

Um...yes white babies are dying. I also need you to explain how ONLY black babies can be killed. Is Bush Hitler now? Is he trying to eradicate the "damn dirty coloreds" by denying their children health care?

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Oh, his policies are equal opportunity killers. Poor babies are dying, which sadly makes the majority of deaths be in black families on the south.

As for Bush - and his party and his staff - goals with this policy and it's similarity to Hitler, I'll let you draw your own conclusions. I'll just quote his wife and his mom...

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Barbara Bush
* Speaking on March 18, 2003, two days before the beginning of the war on Iraq, she told ABC's Good Morning America :

"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

* While visiting a Houston relief center for people displaced by Hurricane Katrina, Bush told the radio program "Marketplace,

"Almost everyone I've talked to says, 'We're gonna move to Houston.' What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas... Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality, and so many of the people in the arenas here, you know, were underprivileged anyway. This is working very well for them."

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Laura Bush to Anne Curry on the Today Show (April 25th 2007)

no one suffers more than their President and I do

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Where's the baby-eating bishop of Bath and Wells when you need him?

What a long winded response. Bottom line is that neither of us know what their intentions are, so we arent eligible to be arguing about this. Ill concede. Neither of us is going to change the others opinion anyway.

Let me say this: Judging by your responses, it seems as if you think I like Bush. Thats not the case at all. I cant stand him and making him President was a mistake from the beginning. But I dont think hes evil, I dont think hes racist, I dont think hes out to destroy anything. Hes just not very smart, and like I said earlier, he really picked the wrong job and is now paying for it big time. Im only defending him because its not fair to blame every problem going on in the country on him. Things have sucked since the dawn of time and will continue to suck. Try looking inward instead of blaming the people in charge.

Things have sucked since the dawn of time. But some got a lot worse

Infant Mortality had been going down since 1958. Then came Bush and his party saying we should not spend money on social issues, we should give it back to the corporations instead and they would all take care of us.

Guess what, this decision was wrong and his party's mistakes had a hefty price in lives. From a party that calls itself the "party of life" it is the height of hypocrisy.

All I have to say, is there is a hell of a lot more going on, then most people are aware of. And you can find facts to support any argument you want to make, about anything. Not even joking.

I still hate the fact that Bush is made out to be some kind of stupid idiot, when I can guarantee, he's smarter than at least 70% of the people that think they know better than him.

The way politics works, is some things are sacrificed to improve other things. No matter what you do, something bad will happen somewhere. Never does a decision only create good things... EVER. I still don't think this is Bush's fault in any way. I think it's completely the way American Society is headed in general.

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