Two Red XIII questions (minor spoilers)

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Originally Posted by ReloadPsi

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Originally Posted by Lady of the sheep

and secondly...Hojo wanted to breed Aerith with Nanaki..
we think thats revolting...wouldnt you?

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Don't let Baloki catch you saying that.

Never mentioning his name? He wanted nothing to do with the team, that's why. He only wanted to stick around as long as it took to get home, and that was it. I don't recall him ever joining in saying "We're going after Sephiroth" until Bugenhagen told him to... I could be wrong about that though.

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No your not even when you talk to him while everyone stands outside Midgar he says "Im going back to my hometown.Ill go with you as far as that."

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Originally Posted by Lady of the sheep

well, actually, yeah nanaki is nanaki
and secondly...Hojo wanted to breed Aerith with Nanaki..
we think thats revolting...wouldnt you?
and...yeah...i have a question for it too...why is Bugenhagen Nanakis grandad if hes human!!
D: SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT
there you go...

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he means grandfather in a philisophical sense,
And maby they used the name Red XIII instead of nanaki because it sounds cooler, simple yes but maby even logical.

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Originally Posted by Lady of the sheep

and...yeah...i have a question for it too...why is Bugenhagen Nanakis grandad if hes human!!
D: SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT
there you go...

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When a daddy gets drunk at is a bit horny he gets slightly attratced to his dog... after a while the dogs becomes very uncomfortable and ... well you get the rest.

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Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER

If he was marked as "13" does that mean that others of his species where captured too? I doubt it's the same number marking as the Sephiroth clones as they are all humans.

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I doubt it because the only three of his species we're ever told about is Red, his mother and his father. I was under the impression during Hojo's tenure as Head of the Science Department, Red was the sole survivor of his species as we never see or are told of any others. Presumably if Hojo had captured more of Red's species then Red or Bugenhagen would've known about it since Cosmo Canyon seems to be their homeland.

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Originally Posted by Heath

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Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER

If he was marked as "13" does that mean that others of his species where captured too? I doubt it's the same number marking as the Sephiroth clones as they are all humans.

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I doubt it because the only three of his species we're ever told about is Red, his mother and his father. I was under the impression during Hojo's tenure as Head of the Science Department, Red was the sole survivor of his species as we never see or are told of any others. Presumably if Hojo had captured more of Red's species then Red or Bugenhagen would've known about it since Cosmo Canyon seems to be their homeland.

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Hojo seems to believe Nanaki is the last of his kind, too.
Obviously this is later proven wrong, but Nanaki's kind are definitely sparse.

More likely Hojo numbered him like he did the other Sephiroth 'clones'. I think Nanaki actually expresses concern about that at one moment in the game in the Great Crater.

I reckon Hojo just numbers all his important samples/experiments. I don't think Nanaki's tattoo is specifically related to the 'clones'. He does worry about that possibility - at the Gold Saucer recap before the date scene, he wonders if he's going to go mad like the tattooed folks in black capes. But since he never shows any adverse side effects at all, and doesn't find himself supernaturally strong compared to how he used to be, I'd say it's a safe bet that he wasn't used for Jenova cell experiments.

I suppose there's always the possibility that Jenova cells wouldn't affect his species, but I think, as D said, it's a pretty safe bet that he wasn't used for any Jenova experiment.

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Originally Posted by Big D

Hojo seems to believe Nanaki is the last of his kind, too.
Obviously this is later proven wrong, but Nanaki's kind are definitely sparse.

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i have another question
(i know, this isnt technically to do with the thread, but still, its a q to do withole Nanaki)
so, on AC, you see Nanaki has two sons (i have assumed their his...) so...maybe Hojo DID get Nanaki and Aerith to...
erhem...course, you shouldnt take that last comment seriously, only because i know that there MAY be more of his kind.....BUT Nanaki said there was none...
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Originally Posted by Lady of the sheep

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Originally Posted by Big D

Hojo seems to believe Nanaki is the last of his kind, too.
Obviously this is later proven wrong, but Nanaki's kind are definitely sparse.

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i have another question
(i know, this isnt technically to do with the thread, but still, its a q to do withole Nanaki)
so, on AC, you see Nanaki has two sons (i have assumed their his...) so...maybe Hojo DID get Nanaki and Aerith to...
erhem...course, you shouldnt take that last comment seriously, only because i know that there MAY be more of his kind.....BUT Nanaki said there was none...
:(

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He had two offspring at the end of the game, too. That's exactly the same scene as the start of Advent Children. It's five hundred years later. We don't know who mothered Nanaki's children, but it cannot possibly have been Aerith since those babies weren't born until centuries after every other FFVII character died:p
Clearly, Nanaki eventually found others of his species, just like Bugenhagen said he might do. Hojo believed Nanaki was the last of his kind, and Nanaki seemed to think so too - but how could either of them be certain? Especially Hojo. Clearly, there were scattered survivors, and Nanaki eventually started a family with one of them.
It's kind of like how everyone believed that the Cetra vanished millennia ago, when in reality the bloodline was continued.

Or, maybe Hojo had captured more dog-lions at some point, whether when he captured Red or at an earlier time. These other dog-lions he killed off during experiments, but he still had DNA. Nanaki's unfinished business with Hojo is in part an attempt to acquire some of that DNA, which he later uses to clone a mate for himself.