Dude that sucks! Here let me buy you a drink...

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Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryûkishi

Opinions that are at least based in reality would be preferable, I'm sure.

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Owned.


Cyan, Garnet, and Ramza definitely have it the worst of FF heroes.

Squall had it pretty bad to if I remember correctly.

And to the person who says cloud, he's just a big baby. :P

Squall didn't have it so rough unless I missed something.

He just was brought up in an Orphanage and grew dependent on a girl who eventually left and then he was left all alone in the rain to give heartstring-tugging lines of dialog to no one.

I'd like to add that Celes though far from having suffered the most, has it dramatised such a way that I really feel sorry for her.

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Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover

Squall didn't have it so rough unless I missed something.

He just was brought up in an Orphanage and grew dependent on a girl who eventually left and then he was left all alone in the rain to give heartstring-tugging lines of dialog to no one.

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Thats why he wasn't in my list of those with the hardest lifes. At least not the first few I mentioned. :P

Naturally Cyan.

But what about Locke. Think of the kind of guilt and mental anguish it must take to keep someone literally trying to keep a dead person alive. I mean, even after he started to have feelings for Celes, once the world got smashed, he was STILL trying to revive Rachel.

Cyan's family was killed by an outside force, where as Locke feels (due to Rachel falling and all things going in place) that her death was entirely his fault thus being a mental case about it but still trying to be noble.

I never really felt much for Setzer though.

And I don't think Aeris had a sad life due to the fact she was a total optimist. Even if you told her that her story was sad she'd brush it off as a way of growing or something. I think she led a happy life til the end.

I think Rydia deserves a drink too. A, what like, 10 year old kid having her mother die infront of her then minutes later her entire village burnt to the ground by the same people who killed her mother. Yeah, -that- sucks.

Oh and Gau too. I mean, even when he did go meet his father, his father STILL hated the thought of the "demon child" AKA Gau. Of course Gau was happy because his father said, who ever raised him raised a fine young man or something, but STILL. It's like "DAD I'M HERE!" "What?! I HAVE NO KIDS, I HAD A DREAM A DEMON BABY KILLED MY WIFE AND I THREW IT INTO THE WOLVES *rants* I HAVE NO SON. T T" "=["

I think over all, FFVI has the most people with a crappy life, but that's how it was suppose to be since one of FFVI's main theme's is overcoming very emotional obsticles of the past.

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Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke

I'd like to add that Celes though far from having suffered the most, has it dramatised such a way that I really feel sorry for her.

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I agree. (DUH) There are times where she seems to feel she's not even a person. Then of course there's the whole Rachel thing. She attempts to commit suicide because she feels she has no one, then when she washes up on shore she finds locke's bandana (in which she keeps til the end of the game) and that gives her hope.

But honestly, by the time she finds Locke in the cave trying to revive Rachel again. That's gotta be a mental blow. "LOCKE!" "CELES, I'VE FOUND A WAY TO REVIVE RACHEL!" "...So you didn't even bother looking for me?" "Not really, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS NOW! WE GOTTA REVIVE MY COMATOSE/DEAD GIRLFRIEND! =D!" "..."
If I was Celes and I was already so down on Life that I tried to kill myself, the fact that the person who gave hope to me didn't really do much to find me and would rather revive his dead Girlfriend would be like an "LOL YOU SUCK" sign to me.

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

I'd say Ramza. Born in a noble family with the pressure of living up to its name, he's disliked by his oldest brother cause he's the child of a second marriage and not considered true blood, makes several mistakes in his youth trying to live up to his family name which results in the death of his best friends sister and the ending of his friendship with Delita. Joins a mercenary guild in disgrace only to have its leader betray him and try to kill him. Hell, he's betrayed by almost everyone... Fails everytime he tries to save Ovelia, accidentally stumbles upon the plot of the church and becomes branded a heretic meaning any chance of him living a normal life is gone, is hereto after pursued by the church, his brothers who have abandoned him, and Goltana's forces.

Discovers his friend is manipulating the war for personal gain, learns his brother is manipulating the war for personal gain and ends up killing both his brothers. Saves the world and never gets credit for it, instead he's criminalized and the few people who try to tell his tale are killed for it. Granted he's happy by the end cause he has the satisfaction of knowing he did the right thing. He never fought for glory or revenge, and unlike most other FF characters, his life is almost completely destroyed to obtain his goal.

He was the character my friends and I unanimously agreed upon. I'd easily buy him a drink if I met him in a bar. After that sob story, I wouldn't even care if its happy hour or not.;)

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It's too bad you can't actually buy him a drink in the many pubs around the game. Poor guy.

Zell. Always unable to get that hot dog.

...and then he nearly chocked to death in front of pigtail girl D:

Cait Sith No. 1! He sacrificed himself; he was crushed and replaced.

I think that Aerith Gainsborough and Terra Branford had very unfortunate circumstances in their lives. I would not say that they had it worst out of the entire series, though, because you never really know who is meant to be portrayed as having it as the worst of the worst.

Basch didn't have it good either.

There is some(or many?) characters in FF who suffered more than him, but I think Zack Fair deserves to be mentioned here.

Crisis Core and Before Crisis' spoilers:
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- Zack was betrayed by his friend and mentor, Angeal, and had to kill him later.
- Two of his SOLDIER friends became puppets of Fuhito, and Zack was forced to kill them.
- His friend Sephiroth, betrayed him and kicked his ass.
- He was in a test tube for 5 years.
- Was betrayed by the company he dedicated his life for, chased by them like an animal, and was forced to fight against his friend, Cissnei(one of the Turks).
- After sending letters to him for 5 years(and without receiving an answer) Aerith gave up of him(she said in her last letter, that she wouldn't send letters to him anymore).
- Was killed by Shinra on the outskirts of Midgar, when he was very close of meeting Aerith again.

You want to know what "betrayal" means? Asks Zack Fair.

Overall, I'd say Cloud. The layers of experience, torture, and deceit piled up on him pretty fiercely. He lost his mind and identity, only to be reminded of the truth in the harshest way possible. He basically rebuilt his existence, even as he came to terms with overwhelming loss and the similar burden of trying to save the planet from a disaster he unwittingly had a hand in. Incidentally, the way Cloud confronted and overcame his weakness is what makes him my favourite 'hero' of the series.

Hmmm...I'm not sure I remember everyone's stories vividly enough to really have a good opinion. But off the top of my head, I think Cyan, Tidus, and Zack had the saddest stories...though I was most emotionally affected by the stories of Celes, Aeris, and...Tidus again.

As an aside, I think the Square has completely put an end to the Cloud/Aeris and Cloud/Tifa shipping debate. I used to think it was pretty even (when I had just played VII), but after watching Tetsuya Nomura call Tifa Cloud's "light" in Kingdom Hearts II (which I don't really agree with, though I prefer Cloud/Tifa), and after seeing all the emphasis that Zack/Aeris gets in Crisis Core...eh. But then, that's just my opinion. Which is off-topic here.