No kidding.
ZOE2 ZOE2 ZOE2!
Also, Bard's Tale is pretty great. Forgotten Realms Demon Stone is also fun.
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Odin Sphere and GrimGrimoire!
I second Karellen's suggestion of the Shadow Hearts games, though the first one might be a bit hard to track down. Otherwise perhaps try some more of the Devil May Cry games if you enjoyed the first.
The three Silent Hill games are worth trying out, especially 2 and 3.
Dragon Quest VIII is probably the best RPG outside the FF titles. Although it take about 100 hours to complete, and has an old school battle system.
Onimusha and the Atelier Iris series are good games to play too.
What :eyebrow: Sure the later ones improve, but TS1 is still great.
Shadow Hearts, anything by Nippo Ichi Software (Disgaea, etc.), Dynasty Warriors 3 (Best in series), Destroy All Humans!, ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, Sky Odyssey, Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy, Fatal Frame, Red Faction (Not 2 though), Soul Calibur 2, SSX/Tricky/3, Star Wars: Battlefront 2, Suikoden III, Suikoden V, Summoner, The Warriors, XIII.
No! Don't do it! The pathetic multiplayer maps (in comparison to the first) are pathetic! D:Quote:
Star Wars: Battlefront 2
I third or fourth or however many those as well :p I liked Tales of Legendia, dunno what people find wrong with it :p Ar Tonelico and Mana Khemia were good games, the second is pretty recent too - both also have very recent sequels (currently japanese only) if the language barrier isn't a big problem for you :p I've heard good things about FES an Odin Sphere though I've not got round to playing either yet - I'm currently playing Grim Grimoire which is a very interesting RTS, with nice story and somewhat unique graphics :p
Since you've already played some of Clover's other titles, not to mention Devil May Cry, you may as well go for Okami. I rarely enjoy long games. I'm 65 hours in and counting and I'm still intrigued.
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are reason alone to own a PS2. If you haven't finished both of them, you need to get on that immediately.
KojiPro's Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner is my absolute favourite action game of all time, and my favourite game to come out of the studio. If you enjoy Metal Gear and haven't played MGS2, you should at least try it. The story is generally love it or hate it, but the gameplay is absolutely AMAZING regardless, and even better in the Substance director's cut (VR Missions w00t!).
If you've played Soul Reaver 2 and enjoyed its storyline, Defiance is a must. The game is a great finale, especially when you consider how much was against it: a severely limited budget, marketing pressure, tight time limitations, and the team of writers being forced to accept Blood Omen 2's storyline as canon and work around its utter ridiculousness. Defiance is a bit rough around the edges because of these things, but ultimately its acting, writing, and general storytelling panache shine through in ways most other games can only dream of.
Rez. The ultimate rail-shooter. It's more comfortable in the format than nearly any other I've played, and it blends play with sheer artisitc WOW better than any other title I've come across.
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne is one of the greatest RPGs ever made. Its storytelling is a godsend in a staling genre, its play is challenging and strategic, yet unrelentingly fast-paced. The world is like an interactive Dante's Inferno, and every single aspect of the game comes together in astounding ways. It is the ultimate game in the series, as far as I'm concerned. A perfect melding and streamlining of all that had come before it, and none of the games made since have had quite the same impact.
I really love both Digital Devil Saga games as well. The gameplay is basically watered-down Nocturne, which makes it a solid starting point. The story is great, but more traditionally told, making it a bit more accessible as an introduction to the series. I haven't played much of Persona 3, so I can't comment. I can say that in spite of lacking both the series director AND lead artist, everything seemed like it came together pretty well.
I can't recall now if they were on your list, so if not: Silent Hill 2, Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly, and Tales of the Abyss are games you can't go wrong with.
I always found Defiance to leave the series on a sour note. They tried to turn the gameplay into Devil May Cry or something but did it terribly. They also picked up the habit of closing you in an arena to fight your enemies which just pissed me off. It also didnt feel like the epic conclusion the series needed, especially after the four quality titles before it. Still worth it if your a fan of the series.
Like I said, the Soul Reaver team had to put up with a LOT of hardships to make Defiance turn out as well as it did. We could sit here and debate the strengths and weaknesses of BO2, but even cutting that out of the list of reasons I listed leaves a hefty amount of obstacles. The DMC-style combat and dumbed down level design were the results of marketing pressure, trying to make the series "cooler" and more "accessible". I never felt like the storytelling suffered for that, and so I'm thankful that it turned out as well as it did. Pile on the time and budget limitations, and it's a miracle that the plot turned out the way it did.
Even though Defiance as a game suffers in a lot of ways compared to its predecessors, its story was filled with some truly remarkable revelations and wrap-ups, and I thought it was one of the better series finales in that regard. It didn't feel like it tried to take on too much, or be a "best of". It had issues to address within the storyline and I felt that it answered things appropriately and wrapped up character arcs in some truly satisfying ways. I'd say it ended on a positive note. Maybe on not quite the note I had expected, but a positive one nonetheless. :)
Just by posting here you should know what i would recommend if you havent played it already o_o
Tekken 5 is the best beat-em-up game I've ever come across on any console, why not give that a go?
Suidoken IV, Star Ocean til the ends of time, Robot Warlords (as close as the ps2 gets to the awesome front mission 3, bloody difficult though to master however), Ring of Red (dated but good mecha strategy game, was one of the first releases for the PS2) I think it's got the initials S.L.A.F. for it's title on the ps2 but essentially Konami ripped off Phantom Crash which was an excellent and under-rated Xbox game where it becomes Armored Core 4 meets Gran Turismo, objective is to buy a mecha and compete in tournaments progressing through the storyline as you go and you get the options of upgrading your mech, light for less armour more speed, heavy for slower but harder to kill. I never played the PS2 version but from what I can tell it's exactly the same bar the menu system. GTA 3 since you've done Vice and San Andreas. GTA stories games unless you've played them on the psp are probably worth a bargain bin buy.
Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Okami, Metal Gear Solid 2, and others I cant think of.
Except, you know, for the glacial loading times.
Well if I remember, it did end on a cliffhanger which would prevent the possibility of it being an epic conclusion in my eyes. Climax maybe. It's a shame Amy Hennig left for Naughty Dog and there's been no word of any sequel.Quote:
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