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Dude, Bert, you should watch it if only for the female in the movies. :shifty:
They even have the guy from the old cartoons doing the voice for Optimus. It is definitely full of 'changes' but if you watch it with an open mind it's quality. I still adore the old cartoons and everything, but as a standalone movie it still references the old-school stuff and keeps personalities as they should be.
but Jazz dies and ironhide dies in the Cartoon movie! I can't watch my two favorite autobots die in one lifetime!
I heard Jazz is coming back this next movie. I could be completely wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.
Yeah, they cheat their deaths using the lifespark so I'm told.
The reason for my comment really should be obviously. Michael Bay makes bad films with subpar plots, terrible acting and even worse scripts. The cinematography, music, and even your precious explosions in the original Transformers movie all were bad and underwhelming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercen-X
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Originally Posted by The ManQuoted for truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
I find it funny how no one cites or states grounded reasons for these comments. How could anyone not think Transformers was awesome? What the hell could it have missed? I admit, I would have liked a main character with a better name than Witwicky (not Spike, :shudder: ), but aside from that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22This, though if the original cast is back and Michael Bay is directing again I wouldn't count on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Necronopticous
Besides, Voltron was totally better than Transformers.
Shia LaBeouf? God I hate him too. He needs to gtfo of the movie business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
I thought the first film was ok. But my expectations were loooooooow. I'm not really too interested to watch another Transformer movie, and if I did, the only reason would be Megan Fox.
Yeah that idiot. I can't believe he's in like every movie now. It makes me sick and he's just so damn annoying.
People who say that Transformers is all about fighting robots need to think out of the box a little more. The first Transformers movie (the 1986 cartoon) had heart and emotive qualities as well as action. Optimus Prime dying was actually quite a moving scene in that movie. So shrugging off all those qualities is giving Michael Bay quite an easy time making these movies as he only has to think of ways to mangle pieces of scrap.
The cheesy power-ballads in the animated Transformers movie killed any deeper meaning that movie could have had to me. Yeah, it was sad when Optimus died, but it was awesome when Hot Rod became Rodimus Prime and kicked Galvatron's and Unicron's ass, which is what Transformers is all about; silly Decepticons concocting some evil plot and the Autobots overcoming them in the end and kicking lots of ass along the way.
Therein lies the problem though. I wanted big flashy robot battles and a brainless plot. Instead I got a bunch of boring humans running around taking up 2 hours of screen time for no other reason than to have some semblance of a plot and about 20 minutes of robot fights with shaky camera angles that made it difficult to tell what was going on. Seriously, if I can't even tell what part of the robot I'm seeing half the time then something's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magixion
Next time Michael Bay would do well to keep in mind that the main characters should be the Transformers, not the stupid sacks of flesh they protect.
shia is good for the role cause he looks like an out cast, so ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by MirielShia LaBeouf? God I hate him too. He needs to gtfo of the movie business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
I thought the first film was ok. But my expectations were loooooooow. I'm not really too interested to watch another Transformer movie, and if I did, the only reason would be Megan Fox.
and megan fox was exalent to in her role.
I really hope not. Nothing against Jazz, he was the damn coolest character in the whole freakin' movie, but character resurrection is a weak plot element. At least Megatron becomes a different character when he's brought back. If they brought back, Jazz, they'd have to change him too and what the hell would he be then?Quote:
Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm
So, what kind of experience would have been whelming or so? And, yeah... Voltron... good concept but I'd kill anyone who shouted "Voltron Force" and tried to take themself seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
Admittedly, they could have spent a lot less time showing us who Witwicky was and definitely didn't need too much exposure to the agency and that annoying guy who led it. I liked the soldier subplot though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Therein lies the problem though. I wanted big flashy robot battles and a brainless plot. Instead I got a bunch of boring humans running around taking up 2 hours of screen time for no other reason than to have some semblance of a plot and about 20 minutes of robot fights with shaky camera angles that made it difficult to tell what was going on. Seriously, if I can't even tell what part of the robot I'm seeing half the time then something's wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magixion
Next time Michael Bay would do well to keep in mind that the main characters should be the Transformers, not the stupid sacks of flesh they protect.
Anyway... Transformers battles are typically laser fights which wouldn't do for a live-action film. A semblance of plot is better than a brainless plot. Leave that to the cartoons.
I wonder if some people expected to see humans in Jurassic Park or Jaws. ;) Particularly in 'first' movies, you don't just throw things out there from the get-go and ignore the human viewpoint. You do it slowly, build up the excitement of seeing new Transformers one by one, that sort of thing. I'm sure in the next Transformers movie there will be a lot more viewing-time based on the robotic kind rather than the human kind, but you do have to keep in mind that this is a more realistic look at how humans would react to alien robots coming to Earth to use it as a battlefield. If you think that we'd all just sit back and only have two construction workers (or whatever, I can't remember) join a bunch of robots and then have little to no other humans get involved, you're kidding yourself. :p
I'm having a hard time taking this question seriously. Was it serious? I'm not sure. I would've probably enjoyed the movie had it not completely banked on the concept of people rallying around giant robots and terrible cgi explosions. But that's just me, I'm a little bit more difficult to reel in. A better script and acting would've been acceptable too. Some people are not built to act in action movies. Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox, decent actors in other settings, just don't make the cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercen-XSo, what kind of experience would have been whelming or so? And, yeah... Voltron... good concept but I'd kill anyone who shouted "Voltron Force" and tried to take themself seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
Also give Voltron a break, it was a product of the 80s. Transformers was just as corny.