I forgot DESTRUCTIBLE ENVIRONMENTS~
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I forgot DESTRUCTIBLE ENVIRONMENTS~
Good Trends:
The Return of 2D and 2D gameplay - I've been waiting for this to happen for awhile but it seems like 2D is making a bit of a comeback thanks to games like Odin Sphere, Guilty Gear, Disgaea, and SNK. The return of 2D gameplay is also welcomed in titles like SFIV and Bionic Commando. The World Ends With You is another fine example of excellent 2D mechanics along with a host of titles on the DS and PSP.
I never felt 3D was as grand of a revolution as people made them out to be back in the late 90's, probably cause the games I liked playing were not exactly titles that needed it (RPGs) only fighting games got a drastic change and I'm still waiting for them to get good in 3D. :rolleyes2
Capcom and Atlus - These two companies seem to continually bring forth excellent titles. Not only blockbuster titles but also unique niche titles as well. Mega Man 9, My World My Way, Okami, and Persona 3: FES are all titles that a few years ago, I would not believe for an instance that they would make it outside of Japan.
Return of the 2D Fighter - Am I the only one who is happy that SNK decided to finally make collections of all their 2D fighters and release them outside of Japan. Anyone else happy that SFIV retained its classic 2D roots instead of trying to shoe horn its play mechanics into another 3D fighter? Anyone else happy that Guilty Gear is still around? I am, I grew up on 2D fighters and for awhile was afraid they wall fall into a small niche genre but the last two years have shown the love. :love:
Return of Point and Click Adventure games - I love the DS for bringing back this genre. Phoenix Wright ftw!!! :cool:
Bad Trends:
The decline of good JRPGs - If it wasn't for Atlus I'd be really worried but doesn't it feel like the traditional JRPG is disappearing? I mean great titles that inspire you and make you do crazy things like write fanfics or cosplay as them. Games like Persona 3 and The World Ends With You are amazing titles but why does it seem like they appear every blue moon. Even high budget fare doesn't feel as promising anymore. The genre has been so crowded lately its difficult to find gems anymore and with Capcom not working on any new BoFs or Konami deciding to reinvigorate the Suikoden series, it seems like we're stuck hoping Squenix doesn't run out of ideas.
Still waiting for the Next Generation of gaming to start - I'm probably alone on this one but I just feel the new generation has not presented anything that feels like a "herald of the next generation". We've seen a few good sequels on better hardware but nothing has really gotten the ball rolling it feels.
Sony is still trying to salvage the PS3, Microsoft is stealing their exclusives in between their system dying, and Nintendo is squandering technology to make games for your grandmother. I guess for me, it seems like only the PS2, PSP, and DS are getting excellent titles nowadays. Hell, even the PC is getting "must have" titles, and it just seems like I can get the same content from this new generation from somewhere else. I find myself trying to decide which console to buy by what old games are available on the DLC network... That doesn't feel right.
Its been getting a bit better lately but it just seems like this generation lacks any titles that can really show off the new generation, its just been a prettier version of the last gen at twice the cost.
Causal Vs. Hardcore - This whole nonsense seems a bit silly to me. I know I get labeled as "hardcore" on these forums cause I welcome a challenge and I wish games weren't so easy but even I have titles that I play for causal fun. I do bitch about the Wii being marketed exclusively for casual gamers but its more because I feel the Wii technology presents several innovations for gaming and its getting squandered on making Mario Party knockoffs. It could easily be a system enjoyed by casual, traditional, and hardcore gamers but it caters to one group exclusively.
Basically, I wish casual gamers would stop making games so dirt easy, I also hate hardcore gamers making companies insist on making ridiculous challenges to gain rewards that weren't worth half the effort. I want games to be made for everyone to enjoy, granted both groups can have their niche genres but we don't need the entire industry to cater to one over the other. They could easily fix this by incorporating a well balanced system that allows you to choose the appropriate difficulty level, which brings me to...
Bad Difficulty Settings - Why must Normal be "press A to win" and hard mode must be "mind numbing, soul shattering, hard"? These are just the two basic settings and they still have an easy and crazy mode. Why can't I have a happy medium?
I'm still hoping from something new from Camelot (another Golden Sun).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
I could've told you that when the consoles first came out. There is nothing revolutionary about any of them. The Wii is the only one that changed anything (with the Wiimote), and a lot of people didn't like that change. A better CPU does not a revolution make. We aren't going to get a true next gen in gaming for a long time. Graphics and controls have gone as far as they are going to go for a while. Sure, screen resolutions and object counts will increase, but nothing fundamental will change, which means no next-gen.Quote:
Still waiting for the Next Generation of gaming to start - I'm probably alone on this one but I just feel the new generation has not presented anything that feels like a "herald of the next generation". We've seen a few good sequels on better hardware but nothing has really gotten the ball rolling it feels.
Sony is still trying to salvage the PS3, Microsoft is stealing their exclusives in between their system dying, and Nintendo is squandering technology to make games for your grandmother. I guess for me, it seems like only the PS2, PSP, and DS are getting excellent titles nowadays. Hell, even the PC is getting "must have" titles, and it just seems like I can get the same content from this new generation from somewhere else. I find myself trying to decide which console to buy by what old games are available on the DLC network... That doesn't feel right.
Its been getting a bit better lately but it just seems like this generation lacks any titles that can really show off the new generation, its just been a prettier version of the last gen at twice the cost.
This I am hoping and believing will go away on its own, as developers get a better feel for what casual gaming actually is, and realize, that casual games can still have some difficulty to them without losing their wide range appeal.Quote:
Casual Vs. Hardcore - This whole nonsense seems a bit silly to me. I know I get labeled as "hardcore" on these forums cause I welcome a challenge and I wish games weren't so easy but even I have titles that I play for causal fun. I do bitch about the Wii being marketed exclusively for casual gamers but its more because I feel the Wii technology presents several innovations for gaming and its getting squandered on making Mario Party knockoffs. It could easily be a system enjoyed by casual, traditional, and hardcore gamers but it caters to one group exclusively.
Basically, I wish casual gamers would stop making games so dirt easy, I also hate hardcore gamers making companies insist on making ridiculous challenges to gain rewards that weren't worth half the effort. I want games to be made for everyone to enjoy, granted both groups can have their niche genres but we don't need the entire industry to cater to one over the other. They could easily fix this by incorporating a well balanced system that allows you to choose the appropriate difficulty level, which brings me to...
Add in to that "beat easy to get to normal, beat normal to get to hard". A really idiotic trend I want to go away.Quote:
Bad Difficulty Settings - Why must Normal be "press A to win" and hard mode must be "mind numbing, soul shattering, hard"? These are just the two basic settings and they still have an easy and crazy mode. Why can't I have a happy medium?
The technical side has been a let down but I knew that before the generation started as well though I had higher hopes for Nintendo than I should have. I feel its the lack of true "must have IPs". Part of the problem is the industry's move towards multi-platform releases but I also sometimes feel the developers have just been releasing last gen games in a new gen coat. Even when the game does have promise, its either ignored (Valkyrie Chronicles), has other elements that make the game a bit unbearable (DMC4), new elements are borrowed from other games (FFXII and MGS4), or just seems to miss the mark (Eternal Sonata).
I guess what I'm getting at is that none of the systems have released a title that feels like "Yes, this is the new generation" it doesn't need to be terribly innovative with the system technology but no games really stand out in of themselves like MGS2, Halo, and Metroid Prime did in the last gen, despite none of these titles being terribly innovative of themselves.
The other issue I guess is that gamers want innovation and when developers give it to them they bitch about it cause its new and terrifying and it was "better in the old days" or as I like to think of it as "FFXII syndrome". Then developers give us something that is traditional and we bitch about it being old and archaic or as I like to call it, "Lost Odyssey syndrome". I wish gamers could make up their own damn minds.
Innovative games either work or don't so its always a tough call on those titles; but traditional can lead to stagnation (look at the current state of FPS genre or even the 2D fighting genre in the mid 90's) and then we miss out on wonderful titles like Shadow of the Colossus. Of course its sometimes good to stay traditional as Castlevania has proven.
But there's no pointing and clicking. It's more like a visual/text adventure game.Quote:
Originally Posted by That guy over there
Looks like? So either you mean the graphics are bad or you've not played it :p I'll assume the latter. It's better than you'd expect. I agree and concede that it's not much like the first two, and this is a shame, but I wasn't going in expecting it to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryth
TESIV is shockingly mediocre, but luckily they let you mod it. With over 100 mods active, it's one of my better gaming experiences. xD
Tekken, Virtua Fighter, and most of all Soul Calibur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
Okay, I've got one:
Where the hell did Geo-Mod go?!
Red faction used it wonderfully, beyond the novelty it was an enjoyable and interesting game mechanic that, while obviously far from perfect, also obviously had a huge amount of potential. And here we are, eight fracking years later, and where the heck is it?
So I guess I actually want a new gaming trend :p
There has been a decline in JRPGs because people have finally realized that they are all the same game.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkybladeI'm still hoping from something new from Camelot (another Golden Sun).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
I could've told you that when the consoles first came out. There is nothing revolutionary about any of them. The Wii is the only one that changed anything (with the Wiimote), and a lot of people didn't like that change. A better CPU does not a revolution make. We aren't going to get a true next gen in gaming for a long time. Graphics and controls have gone as far as they are going to go for a while. Sure, screen resolutions and object counts will increase, but nothing fundamental will change, which means no next-gen.Quote:
Still waiting for the Next Generation of gaming to start - I'm probably alone on this one but I just feel the new generation has not presented anything that feels like a "herald of the next generation". We've seen a few good sequels on better hardware but nothing has really gotten the ball rolling it feels.
Sony is still trying to salvage the PS3, Microsoft is stealing their exclusives in between their system dying, and Nintendo is squandering technology to make games for your grandmother. I guess for me, it seems like only the PS2, PSP, and DS are getting excellent titles nowadays. Hell, even the PC is getting "must have" titles, and it just seems like I can get the same content from this new generation from somewhere else. I find myself trying to decide which console to buy by what old games are available on the DLC network... That doesn't feel right.
Its been getting a bit better lately but it just seems like this generation lacks any titles that can really show off the new generation, its just been a prettier version of the last gen at twice the cost.
And I don't understand how a better CPU doesn't mean next generation. That's all the XBox, PS2, and Nintendo Gamecube were - improvements upon the PSX and N64, and those were next-gen consoles. Have you not played Gears of War? LittleBigPlanet? Assassin's Creed? Silent Hill V? Resident Evil 5? MGS 4? Not only the games, but the new generation of consoles has been defined by things like XBox Live Arcade, DLC, user created content, procedural generation, etc. and so on. Not to mention the object counts, destructible environments, and ridiculously improved enemy AI.
Maybe you can define what "next-gen" really means, then?
That's not true at all. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits
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Originally Posted by Kanno
I disagree with these two. 2D video games have been going strong since 58 and new successful 2D fighter have been going strong since SFII and MKII. Smash Bros and Marvel vs Capcom were very popular even during the last gen era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanno
I also would like to see destructible environments again and for them to go up a level like in GTA. If I shoot a building with a rocket launcher I expect it to leave a big hole. I'm also against all the shovelware titles around nowadays. There is room for the causual auidence, but there's too many awful casual games around here.
I would say that GTAIV did a good job of combining a driving game, a third person shooter, and an adventure game all into one.Quote:
Theres also the popular idea of throwing in a bunch of genres into one package and then not doing any of them all that well. The jack of all trades game makes for a MEDIOCRE game. Diversity is cool, but you gotta do at least one of them well...
I'd like to see more customizable characters, better storylines, destructable enivronment (mgs1 ftw!!!), and less suck crap and retardedly unnessesary violence.
Violence is ok if you're using it to help save the world from dragons. It's NOT ok to pimp smack a ho and kill authorities.
So that's what I've been doing wrong all these yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by NeoTifa
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Originally Posted by NeoTifa
What if you're saving the world from an evil empire? :p
Edit: And their army of authorities happen to be hookers?
I think we need more violence. I don't understand why I can't decapitate a hooker and use her body to beat orphans to death. It's just not realistic if I can't do that.
Yes, this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
Also, I'd like to see more new games that introduce creative elements to gaming. I mean, sure, I enjoy a game of Halo 3 or Call of Duty as much as the next person, but let's face it, they aren't much different than their predecessors over all aside from a few new weapons and revamped graphics. I noticed this when I played Call of Duty: World at War on Xbox Live. Sure, I enjoy it and all, but it's pretty much the exact same thing as CoD4 in terms of play. Sure, instead of air strikes, you get artillery attacks, and instead of helicopters, you get dogs, but after that, there really isn't anything different aside from the addition of tanks, which ruin the whole smurfing game, in my opinion. This of course doesn't apply to just FPS games, though. I think that if you're going to make a sequel to a game, at least add some new elements to keep it fresh.
Oh, and rank systems for online play. Make them less broken. :mad2:
Not really a 'trend' thing, but I'd also like to see some more games that never get released outside of Japan. I've gone so far as to buy a Japanese PS2 to play games that never got released here. It's great for games with minimal Japanese, but other games are difficult to play if you can't read kanji. :x
I'd also like to see some visual novels get released in this region too-- *is shot*