Final Fantasy IX Riddles... Three!?

Sorry I haven't guessed apart from the throwaway first guess. :P I'm gonna guess the Invincible, although I don't expect it to be correct...

Twice Your Protector,
Three Times A Foe,
Each Time Met Royalty,
And Would Not Let You Go

It is three times a "foe" by my count: The attacks on Madain Sari, Brahne's Fleet, and Alexandria. It's a "protector" when you fly it into Memoria, and also when you get the airship Invincible in FFIII.

Each time met royalty: Queen Brahne is present at the second attack; Princess/Queen Garnet is present at all three, although she wasn't a princess at the time of the first. The protector part is even more sketchy, you do "meet" Cid when you fly into Memoria, but I haven't gotten that far in III and I can't find anything about meeting royalty in that context.

"And would not let you go" I can't really see how that fits. The same goes for the whole second stanza actually xD But yeah, I don't actually expect it to be correct.

The "And would not let you go" is reference to the circumstances you meet the answer in regards to line 2 and 3

But unfortunately you're wrong.

You'll have to look more carefully at the amount of times you meet this, because it is slightly a trick sentence with the twice protector, three times a foe.

And when I say met royalty, I mean face to face, hence me saying its literal. Not present in the sense of being in the same area.

Gilgamesh?

Nope sorry

I almost want to sat Black Waltz #3, but it only fits with "three times a foe, each time met royalty and would not let you go". I'm pretty sure #3 never protected anything.

ok, to help you guys out a little. I'm gonna let you know that in FFIX the reference to the royalty in this is not Garnet. =) This should get you thinking.

Twice Your Protector, - simple as. In the series of FF, the answer has been your protector twice. However, MsTiffie says that you may not have been directly protected. So it may not necessarily be a *swoop saved your life swoop* kinda deal.
Three Times A Foe, - simple as again. This could mean that you fight the answer three times throughout the series, or it could just be that the answer doesn't like you much. Tiffie says these lines are a bit tricky though, so I imagine you actually meet the answer more than these five times?
Each Time Met Royalty, - Face to face. Not Garnet. My knowledge of other games pretty much screws me for this part, as I haven't played enough. Or at least can't remember enough. All I remember from other games is Sarahs, but Tiffie says it's not Garnet. I just reread some of your hints. This line is literal to the first two lines. This could mean that the character met royalty in the protector/foe events, or it could mean that the answer met royalty. Hell, it could also mean that the protector/foe is the royalty.
And Would Not Let You Go, - In reference to the circumstances in which you meet the answer regarding the five times we know we meet it. This further suggests that the answer is actually met more than 5 times, in my mind. But maybe not. Anyway, this suggests that you are forced to meet the answer. For example, a necessary boss battle, or a necessary meeting to continue the story etc.

You May Misunderstand Me,
My Guardians Say The Same,
But If You Research Me,
You'll See In My Fame

This confuses me, I'll be honest. We may misunderstand the answer in a Garland way. Garland is technically a bad guy, but he's trying to restore his homeland and his people. So the foe times may just be because the answer isn't evil, just misguided. And the protector times may happen when we think the answer is a bastard. Maybe, I dunno. The Guardians say the same in that they misunderstand the answer also? Or the guardians may literally say the same in that they are senseless drones.

"If you research me, you'll see in my fame" has me stumped. My knowledge of fame is that it refers to the reputation or generally opinion held by many, so that's what I'll apply here. So...we'll understand why the person is misunderstood if we researched them more thoroughly? There's more to them that meets the eye, perhaps?

I haven't an answer yet, I'm afraid. Just throwing some ideas out.

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Twice Your Protector, - simple as. In the series of FF, the answer has been your protector twice. However, MsTiffie says that you may not have been directly protected. So it may not necessarily be a *swoop saved your life swoop* kinda deal.

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- You are completely right about this. The answer does not save your life at any point, it is an indirect protector to certain people/things that you relate to etc.

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Three Times A Foe, - simple as again. This could mean that you fight the answer three times throughout the series, or it could just be that the answer doesn't like you much. Tiffie says these lines are a bit tricky though, so I imagine you actually meet the answer more than these five times?

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- You are a bit off on this one, you are right about fighting the answer, however it is rather specific about when it is related to this riddle. As for the tricky bit, I'll give you a hint, Three times a Foe is the main thing you need to look at in terms of how many times you meet them. You do meet the answer more than once in the series, however the riddle only specifies certain times that are relevant to what I'm asking for.

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Each Time Met Royalty, - Face to face. Not Garnet. My knowledge of other games pretty much screws me for this part, as I haven't played enough. Or at least can't remember enough. All I remember from other games is Sarahs, but Tiffie says it's not Garnet. I just reread some of your hints. This line is literal to the first two lines. This could mean that the character met royalty in the protector/foe events, or it could mean that the answer met royalty. Hell, it could also mean that the protector/foe is the royalty.

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Think about all the royalty in FFIX and start from there. Then once you've figured out that part, the rest should fit in.

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Originally Posted by Quin

And Would Not Let You Go, - In reference to the circumstances in which you meet the answer regarding the five times we know we meet it. This further suggests that the answer is actually met more than 5 times, in my mind. But maybe not. Anyway, this suggests that you are forced to meet the answer. For example, a necessary boss battle, or a necessary meeting to continue the story etc.

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- Again refer to the second line. but yes again you are right about it being forced =)

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Originally Posted by Quin

You May Misunderstand Me,
My Guardians Say The Same,
But If You Research Me,
You'll See In My Fame

This confuses me, I'll be honest. We may misunderstand the answer in a Garland way. Garland is technically a bad guy, but he's trying to restore his homeland and his people. So the foe times may just be because the answer isn't evil, just misguided. And the protector times may happen when we think the answer is a bastard. Maybe, I dunno. The Guardians say the same in that they misunderstand the answer also? Or the guardians may literally say the same in that they are senseless drones.

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- This is quite confusing until you can figure out the first few lines. This basically just clarifies that the answer is who you're looking for. Basically the Guardians say that the answer is misunderstood. You'll see why when the answer is figured out.

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"If you research me, you'll see in my fame" has me stumped. My knowledge of fame is that it refers to the reputation or generally opinion held by many, so that's what I'll apply here. So...we'll understand why the person is misunderstood if we researched them more thoroughly? There's more to them that meets the eye, perhaps?

I haven't an answer yet, I'm afraid. Just throwing some ideas out.

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- Again, you're right. =)

Thank you for giving a shot at the reasoning. It's nice to see that instead of pure guess work I cried aloud with mirth and merriment. It's harder to help guess work that doesn't have any reasoning :P Hope this has helped a little.

Garland?

No, try to put reasoning behind your answers, that way I help you understand where you've gone wrong, which will also help other members in their guesses.

He probably just made a random guess as it's become way too confuasing now. I would like to see the answer and see who is possibly related to all those things.

Garland wasn't really random.

Twice Your Protector, -Wasn't sure about this.

Three Times A Foe, -FFI at the beginning and end, and also FFIX

Each Time Met Royalty, -Princess Sara, Chaos, and Garland himself in IX

And Would Not Let You Go -He wasn't going to let you run, he was trying to kill you.

You May Misunderstand Me, -Unsure

My Guardians Say The Same, -Guardians: Lich, Maralith, Kraken, Tiamat

But If You Research Me, -Unsure

You'll See In My Fame -He's the final and 1st boss of FFI as well.

Royalty in FFIX (aside from Garnet):

Queen Brahne, Cid IX, Hilda, Puck and Puck's father.

That would be the full list as far as I'm aware, correct?

Wait a minute... I'm not studying the full riddle with this, so I could be wrong, but is it the Antlion? The Antlion has met with Edward (FFIV), Krile (FFV) and Puck (FFIX). I think a few times it was protecting its nest, and you usually fought it when caught in quicksand.

I dare say the battles with Antlions are forced too. I know they are for IV and IX at least.

Was there a leader of Cleyra? Whoever that is might count as royalty, if this guess falls through.

Is it Bahamut?

He is a protector and a foe.
He was the cause of Brahne's death and he went up against Alexander.

That's all I have for reasoning right now as I am tired.