Zombieland

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Originally Posted by Ouch!

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Originally Posted by Shiny

Ever since I saw the trailer, I've wanted to see this so bad. I don't think it will be as good as Shaun of the Dead, but it still looks pretty boss.

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It blew Shaun of the Dead out of the freaking water. Note that as high praise, because I love that movie.

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you are unfortunately a complete moron. and this movie was udder garbage. it is impossible to make my argument clearly over the internet because a true back and forth discussion is needed. so you guys can flame me all you like but (now here is where i become a zombie elitist) unless you grew up with original Romero and Fulci you are just jumping onto this bandwagon that seems to have come up from nowhere. Shaun of the dead is brilliant, this is slapstick trash. sorry just my opinion.

Yeah, god forbid people should watch and enjoy this film without having a thorough grounding in the zombie film genre first. Maybe they should make people take a 6-week course before they're allowed to see it? 'Jumping on the bandwagon'? What does that even mean?!

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Originally Posted by charliepanayi

Yeah, god forbid people should watch and enjoy this film without having a thorough grounding in the zombie film genre first. Maybe they should make people take a 6-week course before they're allowed to see it? 'Jumping on the bandwagon'? What does that even mean?!

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I like that post.

Yeah it wasn't a "omg this is how zombies behave! Watch this and learn everything about zombies!" movie. It was just a fun movie. You shouldn't be going in to expect anything more than that!

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Originally Posted by guffman

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Originally Posted by Ouch!

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Originally Posted by Shiny

Ever since I saw the trailer, I've wanted to see this so bad. I don't think it will be as good as Shaun of the Dead, but it still looks pretty boss.

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It blew Shaun of the Dead out of the freaking water. Note that as high praise, because I love that movie.

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you are unfortunately a complete moron. and this movie was udder garbage. it is impossible to make my argument clearly over the internet because a true back and forth discussion is needed. so you guys can flame me all you like but (now here is where i become a zombie elitist) unless you grew up with original Romero and Fulci you are just jumping onto this bandwagon that seems to have come up from nowhere. Shaun of the dead is brilliant, this is slapstick trash. sorry just my opinion.

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Yeah no bugger off. I'm as much of a zombie purist and elitist as it is possible to be and this still looks like a great movie :monster: And if you were actually such a zombie expert you'd know full well that plenty of zombie humor depends on slapstick by the very nature of zombies.

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Originally Posted by guffman

you are unfortunately a complete moron. and this movie was udder garbage. it is impossible to make my argument clearly over the internet because a true back and forth discussion is needed. so you guys can flame me all you like but (now here is where i become a zombie elitist) unless you grew up with original Romero and Fulci you are just jumping onto this bandwagon that seems to have come up from nowhere. Shaun of the dead is brilliant, this is slapstick trash. sorry just my opinion.

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I won't defend Zombieland against accusations of it being slapstick. I will, however, agree with MILF in that the very idea of zombies tends to lend itself to that kind of humor. For that very reason, I think Zombieland succeeds.

On second thought, it almost seems unfair to call Zombieland a zombie movie. I wouldn't even say it's fair to call it a spoof of the genre in the way that Shaun of the Dead is. Shaun of the Dead is funny primarily because it mocks the conventions of the more dramatic zombie movies. Zombieland exists entirely independently from the zombie genre. It's first and foremost a comedy. One doesn't have to even like zombies to enjoy Zombieland. I can understand how a self-proclaimed "zombie elistist" may dislike the movie on these grounds.

Then again, I'd also argue that anyone who goes in expecting anything but an excessively ridiculous slapstick comedy from a movie which advertises itself with the tag line "Nut Up or Shut Up" is a complete moron. Sorry, just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by guffman

you are unfortunately a complete moron. and this movie was udder garbage. it is impossible to make my argument clearly over the internet because a true back and forth discussion is needed. so you guys can flame me all you like but (now here is where i become a zombie elitist) unless you grew up with original Romero and Fulci you are just jumping onto this bandwagon that seems to have come up from nowhere. Shaun of the dead is brilliant, this is slapstick trash. sorry just my opinion.

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Everyone else said pretty much what I was thinking regarding this post, but I would also like to add that, and this is coming from an exploitation fan, Fulci's films are smurfing awful.

Going to see it right now in fact because apparently we misread the opening date.

You will have my authoritative and utterly definitive opinion later tonight, at which point you will all know how to think :cool:

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On second thought, it almost seems unfair to call Zombieland a zombie movie. I wouldn't even say it's fair to call it a spoof of the genre in the way that Shaun of the Dead is. Shaun of the Dead is funny primarily because it mocks the conventions of the more dramatic zombie movies. Zombieland exists entirely independently from the zombie genre. It's first and foremost a comedy. One doesn't have to even like zombies to enjoy Zombieland. I can understand how a self-proclaimed "zombie elistist" may dislike the movie on these grounds.

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ok well if you want to classify it as purely a comedy film and disregard the zombies for the sake of argument than you are looking at something completely unoriginal and boring. i mean dont get me wrong, slapstick can be very funny at times. but there was almost nothing original and funny. the bill murray deal was funny i think... and other parts of the film made me chuckle but nothing made me just absolutely love the film.

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Then again, I'd also argue that anyone who goes in expecting anything but an excessively ridiculous slapstick comedy from a movie which advertises itself with the tag line "Nut Up or Shut Up" is a complete moron. Sorry, just my opinion.

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i went in looking for something to make me laugh. it failed.

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Everyone else said pretty much what I was thinking regarding this post, but I would also like to add that, and this is coming from an exploitation fan, Fulci's films are smurfing awful.

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how can you think that Fulci's films are bad? they helped to pioneer the gore porn that we all so love today! yes they are not the best things ever made but they are from the nineteenfreakin70's, you know?

I won't address your more specific points as it ultimately seems to come down to one thing: it just sounds an awful lot like you don't like slapstick comedy. Zombieland was pretty standard in that aspect. It's crass, brutal, and inappropriate humor. Zombies being thrown in just gives the opportunity to laugh at over-the-top gore, blood, and violence. It amused me greatly in the process. If it didn't do so for you, bummer, but I'm going to have to take a wild shot in the dark and say you're in the minority.

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Originally Posted by guffman

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Everyone else said pretty much what I was thinking regarding this post, but I would also like to add that, and this is coming from an exploitation fan, Fulci's films are smurfing awful.

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how can you think that Fulci's films are bad? they helped to pioneer the gore porn that we all so love today! yes they are not the best things ever made but they are from the nineteenfreakin70's, you know?

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Just because it did it first doesn't mean it did it well. Pioneering a genre does not inherently make the movie good. Important, perhaps, but not good.

Just got back from seeing it. It's one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen. Why? Because I knew that at some point it would end, and I would be returned from Heaven to the mortal plane.

It's a great feel good movie. Woody Harrelson reminds me why he is a badass. I had forgotten since he hasn't really done movies where he's played a badass since Natural Born Killers. I'm not gonna say it's better than Shaun of the Dead because I think as far as zombedies, they'd both get the same score. Zombieland was more action packed that much is for sure. It had a few scenes that made my heart flutter.

Best movie of the year in my mind. Love it, will buy it the day it comes to DVD.

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Originally Posted by Ouch!

I won't address your more specific points as it ultimately seems to come down to one thing: it just sounds an awful lot like you don't like slapstick comedy. Zombieland was pretty standard in that aspect. It's crass, brutal, and inappropriate humor. Zombies being thrown in just gives the opportunity to laugh at over-the-top gore, blood, and violence. It amused me greatly in the process. If it didn't do so for you, bummer, but I'm going to have to take a wild shot in the dark and say you're in the minority.

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Originally Posted by guffman

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Everyone else said pretty much what I was thinking regarding this post, but I would also like to add that, and this is coming from an exploitation fan, Fulci's films are smurfing awful.

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how can you think that Fulci's films are bad? they helped to pioneer the gore porn that we all so love today! yes they are not the best things ever made but they are from the nineteenfreakin70's, you know?

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Just because it did it first doesn't mean it did it well. Pioneering a genre does not inherently make the movie good. Important, perhaps, but not good.

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this is true, i am definitely the minority here. it has been very difficult to find someone who agrees with me. oh well... we all have our own opinions. but a question to get all the lovers to think; no one can possibly love every single part of a movie, what changes would you guys have made? no matter how small cause i know most of you will just say stuff like "make it longer" or something not entirely helpful. lets give out helpful criticisms here.

Nothing. There was nothing I didn't like about the movie.

I didn't love every single part of it, but I can't recall a part where I was particularly disappointed with anything. In fact, I'd argue very much against making it longer simply because then I believe you'd begin to encounter the sort of fluff that would then ruin the movie's pacing. I thought Zombieland was pretty freaking awesome from start to finish. I didn't even mind the whole obligatory infusion of the romantic subplot, although I imagine that would become the largest source of ire if there is one at all.