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10-17-2009, 09:22 PM
Rodarian

I believe the existence of Jins.
10-17-2009, 09:31 PM
rubah

I used to love to read ghost and horror stories, but I don't think I ever entertained the idea of them being real.

The closest was hearing sermons preached on spiritual warfare and believing that.

A solid understanding of mechanics removes a lot of room for doubt and belief. For example, energy can spread through objects, not manifesting itself in a tangible way until a vibration hits an object that shares its natural frequency, where it will resonate.
10-17-2009, 09:37 PM
Shoeberto

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

Ghost tours and stories and stuff are fun, though. Classic entertainment. It is fun, but just because you may want to believe in something is no basis for actually believing. The TV shows are just that - entertainment.

That's how I take it. I always enjoyed watching shows about hauntings and stuff, but it's really just a suspension of disbelief for the duration. It's fun to be scared and envision another world, but I really can't give any credit to 'paranormal' research considering how it's all just guesswork.
10-17-2009, 09:51 PM
NorthernChaosGod

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

There are some things which are so far out there they have absolutely zero basis for belief. Ghosts are one of those. It's fun to think through as a sort of logic puzzle, though, as to how ghosts would actually interact with the real world. I'm stealing the following example from Dr Unne.

Say there's a ghost in front of you. Does that ghost have mass? Most people would say no (insubstantial and all), in which case the ghost would appear for only a tiny fraction of a second before the Earth, hurtling through space, left it far behind. We also couldn't see it because there'd be nothing for the light to reflect off of. If you say the ghost does have mass, just an incredibly small amount so that it could still pass through things, then any tiny gust of breeze would send it flying. Unlike some supernatural explanations, we have plenty of reasons to believe that ghosts can't exist.

For every so-called event where there just has to be a ghost/spirit/whatever (which usually comes down to a strange light or sound), it just amazes me how so many people suddenly jump to supernatural ideas. Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is almost always correct. And in all of those cases the simplest explanation is that something natural happened - whether it was light reflecting off of something you didn't see or an unnoticed cat moving around.

I've had plenty of incidents where I heard something I couldn't identify or a light was on I could've sworn I turned off or my keys were somewhere I didn't think I left them, etc etc etc. I shrugged them off as me forgetting what really happened or just not knowing. There's no reason to jump to "ghosts." There's a reason there's no legitimate scientific inquiry into the so-called "paranormal," when there are cameras and receivers and satellites pointing in tons of directions at all times (and for those that say ghosts can't be caught on camera, then we couldn't see them, either, since it's all just reflections of light).

Ghost tours and stories and stuff are fun, though. Classic entertainment. It is fun, but just because you may want to believe in something is no basis for actually believing. The TV shows are just that - entertainment.

QFT
10-18-2009, 01:46 AM
stalpho slayer

i believe that spirits and demons do in fact exist people refuse to accept what they don't understand.

in the same respect some people chose to believe. in the fear that death is the end of everything.

i chose to believe out of my own experiences that i would call paranormal
wheth you believe me or not decide for yourself.

the choice to believe in the afterlife is your own decision.

i believe in god i believe in heaven but i don't believe in all the bull:angel::angel::angel::angel: the bible tells. its all a matter of choice
10-22-2009, 04:18 PM
Unbreakable Will

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Originally Posted by Agrias

I believe in demons passing themselves as ghosts and spirits, but i believe when we die, we die. Thats it.

I agree with this, people die and their spirits go elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Rye

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Originally Posted by Noctiluca

Only leprechauns and Swedes. Ghosts are fakers!

An I'm My Own MILF and a Rantzien walk into a bar...

You would think one of them would have seen it. :bigsmile:
10-22-2009, 04:56 PM
Bunny

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Originally Posted by Rye

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Originally Posted by Noctiluca

Only leprechauns and Swedes. Ghosts are fakers!

An I'm My Own MILF and a Rantzien walk into a bar...

Long story short, Rantzien woke up with a sore ass.
10-22-2009, 10:40 PM
black orb

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...to_believe.jpg
10-22-2009, 11:26 PM
Parker

One time I heard my grandma say "parker. im disappointed in you......i dont even tell my friends i have grandchildren"

....but the thing is...

....she's been dead for YEARS
10-23-2009, 12:44 AM
FaithWontFall

I believe in the paranormal. I like the idea that some things out there can happen that science cant explain. :D
I'm not sure i believe in vampires or werewolves, but spirits i believe in.
10-23-2009, 12:55 AM
Tavrobel

I believe that invisible vectors are actually the cause for all motion in the universe. I shall call them "Forces."
10-23-2009, 01:35 AM
black orb

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Originally Posted by Tavrobel

I believe that invisible vectors are actually the cause for all motion in the universe. I shall call them "Forces."

>>> Those already have a name, its called "dark matter"..
10-23-2009, 01:46 AM
Rocket Edge

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Originally Posted by Parker

One time I heard my grandma say "parker. im disappointed in you......i dont even tell my friends i have grandchildren"

....but the thing is...

....she's been dead for YEARS

lmao

I 100% believe in spirits. I actually used to be quite skeptical when I was younger, but much evidence from people I know and events that have happened locally make me believe otherwise. I was chatting to my gran there last week & we wandered onto this discussion. She said in the old days if there was any sort of irregular disturbance, or if anyone seen something, a priest would have to come down and bless that area with holy water and say a few words. Afterward, everything would be fine. There's plenty of other facts & stories I've heard, but I'm not gonna go into it. Anyway, I hope I don't come across as gullible here or anything, but that's what I believe.

There's also much about old Irish curses I've heard about and looked up on, but that's a different kettle of fish.
10-23-2009, 04:06 AM
Agrias

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Originally Posted by black orb

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...to_believe.jpg

I LOVE the x-files!! <3
10-23-2009, 05:03 AM
Meow

sometimes I will eat a taco but I can still detect a "presence" in the wrapper after the fact

as if the taco were still in that wrapper, calling out to me

a "ghost taco" if you will

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