Please do not post so much in succession, finaloblivion. That's what we have the edit/delete button for.
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Please do not post so much in succession, finaloblivion. That's what we have the edit/delete button for.
I'm not sure that the other games will actually exist in the same universe and have the same history as they were designed by entirely different teams and will likely have their own stories and backgrounds.
I'm still deeply interested in Analect X, which suggests that the arks were created long beforehand and potentially by the Gods themselves. With that in mind, it raises the question as to whether or not the Gods wished to move humanity to a different world (hence the word 'Ark') or alternatively if they were breeding an army for a war in a different world, hence the Gods disappearing (off to fight the war, or possibly already defeated?).
There was clearly some purpose to these things which is left almost completely unanswered.
Yay my theory was liked! I normally spout tripe! lol
There's quite a bit of duality going on throughout the game so I'm quite happy with the concept of Pulse and Lindzi being on the same godliness (love the word) level.
I like the idea of lindzi creating superpope, *cough* I mean barthandalus, with the nature of creating cocoon. Natures are an important part of creation on Gran Pulse. The Gods could only create life and not protect it hence they create the pulse falcie who aren't really bothered by anything except terraforming then lindzi creates bathy to make cocoon then the other falcie with their respective specific purposes.
I'd like something about fang and vanilles first focus, not ness a full game but a short film, DLC short game that gives them more story. Or a film of the prequel novel thingie. Then again I always wanted something following braska, jecht and auron too!
I thought of more things to day.... but....neighbours is on and I got distracted :p
*thinks* . . . I shall return! :D
sorry, had a lot to say and i made this thread so i could say it! i honestly didn't know if a super smurfin long response would be better than two shorter ones...but ill try to keep them a little shorter, apologies.
yes, analect X is definitely one of the more thought provoking entries. it's one of those things in the game that is completely left a mystery, and i like your theory loony bob in that the arks were created on cocoon and pulse so as to maybe move humans to another world should something cataclysmic happen? or even for war...but with whom? it's definitely hinted at that they're purpose was something far grander than just a l'cie training ground. they say they're created for the war against cocoon, but their existence far outlives that of cocoon itself so there's something else to ponder about.
i think it's been said that they're in the same universe that believes in the same mythos, not necessarily the same history of that mythos tho. that's one of the things the different directors were given to interpret as their own and implement into the stories and the different worlds in their own way. like i said, etro is mentioned in the analects in XIII, and Noctis and Stella are discussing the painting at the party, which is of Etro. i also believe that green transparent entity that you fly through on your way back to cocoon is etro herself, but i may be wrong. that same entity is shown in the analect that is describing her however.
I read on the internet that Noctis and Hope look a lot alike.
Only as much as all characters FFVII onwards with spikey, short hair look alike. So you can put that down for Cloud, Hope, Noctis, Squall, Tidus... the list goes on.
I agree that they look alike.Everything look alike(not talking about personality here).
uhh...
anyway, it says Bart created Cocoon in the Chapter 13: Orphan's Cradle datalog entry in the Events section, and it's also abundantly clear that Lindzei is the creator of Cocoon. bleh.
after all is said and done, this is the only thing left that really truly confuses me. the official guide does say that they could be one and the same, but your right bob it's only as a passing idea. i was hoping maybe we could come to a consensus on this so i could have some peace of mind lol, but i know that that just might be one of the things that we're left to wonder about this game. thanks so much for your contributions, and i'll throw it out there that if there are any other theories or loose ends that people may have (such as the arks and taijin's tower) then let's put em up here and discuss some more! me likey talkey
EDIT: I had some more ideas to add after i re-read some of the Analects, but I didn't want to post another long response in succession to my other one. I read Analect I, The Vanished Gods and I kind of realized that some of our answers are here. We know there was Lindzei, Pulse and Etro and according to this at least one more. From kind of connecting the dots and reading other datalog entries, my theory is this: Luminous = Lindzei; Stout = Pulse; Fool = Etro and then one other at least. It then talks of the Maker, which is obviously supreme over all of them. And in the Analect titled Fell Lindzei, it says that even her fal'Cie were orphaned when their Succubus (I'm assuming this means Lindzei) left the Earth. SOOOO....Pulse and Lindzei are below the Maker, Pulse is not one and the same as the Maker, and neither is Lindzei. So that sort of clears that up. And since Lindzei is written to have left, then Barthandelus is not Lindzei....but that's also according to Pulsian history, which could be very clouded and bias. After all....the greatest trick the Devil ever played was making people believe he didn't exist. Ooooo! That also leads me to another theory about Bart's OWL, but it's late and I've written A LOT. sorry for another long response guys :p
Dahaka is a flying snake.
Lindzei is a snake.
Food for thought.
Dahaka isn't a flying snake. He may have the same shape as a snake, but I would say he is more similar to the Chinese style dragon.
Dahaka is a fal'Cie, Lindzei is a god so I don't think they are one and the same.
I think Noctis is a reincarnation of Cid Raine.
Why do you think that?
You also think they look alike?
There must be a relation between them.
And a chinese flying dragon is a type of snake.
Just like Wakka and Gadot! Of course, that means that pretty much every FF character is related because they all look alike. Which is also impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future Esthar
No, it's not. It's a dragon. In fact, they're more often referred to as worms (okay, wyrms) than they are snakes.Quote:
And a chinese flying dragon is a type of snake.