Persona 3 Portable

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

Yay! Aigis was awesome.

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Okay... um, I was checking my sources to give you the link and it seems the news site I got the info from made a mistake cause the director was actually talking about the then unreleased P3P. Sorry about that. So we know absolutely nothing about P5 now.

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Aw...

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Ah, forgot about that. Getting back up no longer costs a turn. Personally, I find this an improvement, because your party is also not crippled by a single hit. It does make skills like Me Patra rather odd though. No need to help someone get up if they do it on their own...

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I don't, I like P3's better cause it created more strategy and risk in the game. P4 empowers the player too much and made the games a bit easier. I actually liked having to change my strategy in mid-battle to protect vulnerable party members and I liked having the option to choose between going for an All Out Attack on a boss and get some extra damage or instead use the knockdown turn as a round to get some needed healing or more often then not, some much needed SP.

P4 removes that and allows me to get extra damage off making battle much easier if they had weaknesses. Then the system proves useless in battles where the enemy has no weakness cause you are basically forced into the only real option which is to do the All Out Attack cause the enemy will just get back up and nail your party anyway. Its too dumbed down for my taste.

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Good points there.

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Even on Heal/Support, your characters will attack sometimes. And if you don't have the party leader move immediately afterward, you can't change tactics before the others mess up. And on the new Maniac difficulty, it gets even more useful.

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Except most of your party will just attack Nyx with their elemental attacks and the reflected attacks are just Void cause of their Persona's natural immunity. The only characters who have issues are ones that don't use their elements normally (Ken, Aigis [who should be healing/support anyway] and Junpei) really, just a bit of tuning will fix this, and as I said, Nyx usually gets the first round in combat and your main usually gets turn two. Nyx is not even the cheapest boss in the game imo, she's actually pretty easy if you have a good party set-up.

My point is that I don't feel the A.I. in P3 was so awful that we needed to control everyone. Considering how limited your other party members are compared to the main character, your options for controlling them are not as robust as some old school RPGs.

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I thought that Nyx's reflect was independent of element, and always did 500 damage. Been too long since I've done that fight to be sure. And the fact that he continually casts his resistance negater doesn't make it easier to figure out.

Oh, true, P3 had a very excellent AI, probably because of the character limitations. But I still like gaining full control.




And I still cannot get over how beautifully atmospheric this game is. The art style (even without the cutscenes), the dialogue, the music... It just blends so perfectly together.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

And I still cannot get over how beautifully atmospheric this game is. The art style (even without the cutscenes), the dialogue, the music... It just blends so perfectly together.

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The Persona games do a very good job of establishing the setting of the game. I enjoyed the art style, the dialogue, and the music of Persona 3 and Persona 4, but I wonder if the developers could do a similar game in a different setting? For example, a Persona game taking place in Europe or North America would be very interesting to me.

^ It's possible. SMTIV was suppose to be set in Tokyo but because of the SMT titles doing so well abroad they chose to move the location of the setting to the Antarctic and make it more universal. :D

The game is definitely easier than the original Persona 3 was, at least on the normal difficulty level. Maniac mode is something else though.

I think I prefer most of the female character's Social Links to the male character's as well. We lose a couple I didn't like as much, and we get to have closer interactions with the other members of SEES.

Although I'm a little disappointed that the Persona-Social Link correspondence didn't keep up for the new SEES Social Links.

Anybody interested in Atlus's upcoming game Catherine should talk to a man inside the club during the last few days of the game. You'll know when you've spoken to the right guy!

Quick question, this has bugged me about every version of this game I've played: Is there any way to rearrange a Persona's skills? After a few upgrades, they get so haphazard, and I would really like it if there was some way to sort them.

Not that I know of :(

By the way, I got to level 99 on my new game plus, and my character's HP and SP jumped from 500-ish to 999 and suddenly I had 9,999,999 yen when I only had half as much before. Does this happen in previous versions? I never got to level 99 until now xD

HP/SP sounds right, I never noticed if I got a money bonus or not.

I love the social link with Koromaru, it is really adorable. :bigsmile:

Having the option to control your characters does greatly reduce the difficulty, but it is optional. I tend to let some characters like Shinjiro, Junpei and Aigis when she has Palladion go by the AI and others I manually control, like Mitsuru.

I also found the female main character to generally have easier social links with so many evening links but the fortune link is cruel if you are playing for the first time, as well as the moon to a lesser extent.

Not to mention there's no jealousy, so you can woo multiple guys at once.

Also, on my new game plus, I tried to romance everyone I could, so I could save the game at the end and watch all of the special endings, but I missed the flag on Ken's link (I didn't the first time though, so that was very silly of me). I romanced Akihiko both playthroughs, but he wasn't an option. Just (SPOILER)Shinjiro. Is there something I missed? He was definitely "omg I love you will you be my girl" and I was like "yeah okay" and that seemed pretty straightforward :confused:

Akihiko has 3 flags to become lovers, during ranks 4 (SPOILER)(deny the rumors and tell him not to misunderstand you), 6(SPOILER)(tell him he is becoming more awesome) and 9 (SPOILER)(tell him it's love). if you miss either of the first 2 flags, the third flag won't even appear.

Then you have to tell him yes. If you answer incorrectly on the this one, you will break the link (and his heart.)

The Changes to ShinjiroI have to say, I found the new events surrounding Shinjiro to be incredible. He has an extremely well written Social Link, and, if you complete it, he will survive Takaya's bullet.

And, frankly, him surviving broke me up more than his death. You had a much greater attachment to the character, through the Social Link, and the scene with Akihiko afterward, while only minorly different, had so much more impact. It was as though Akihiko couldn't get any closure because Shinjiro was still hanging on, and the dialogue and voice acting were incredible. Akihiko was just in shambles, waiting forever for his best friend to wake up.

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Originally Posted by qwertysaur

Akihiko has 3 flags to become lovers, during ranks 4 (SPOILER)(deny the rumors and tell him not to misunderstand you), 6(SPOILER)(tell him he is becoming more awesome) and 9 (SPOILER)(tell him it's love). if you miss either of the first 2 flags, the third flag won't even appear.

Then you have to tell him yes. If you answer incorrectly on the this one, you will break the link (and his heart.)

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The third flag came up and I answered correctly, no doubt about that, but I'm not so sure I answered the first flag correctly. But I guess if I hadn't then the third wouldn't have come up. Answering "yes" to "will you be my girlfriend" is clearly taking the romantic route, so I'm not sure why I didn't get the ending :confused: