Yes. FFVI is my personal pick for most overrated, because it's the only game that I feel hesitant to give my honest opinion of due to the love for it xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
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Yes. FFVI is my personal pick for most overrated, because it's the only game that I feel hesitant to give my honest opinion of due to the love for it xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
There are quite a few in the series to be honest.
IV: I love the game and I will always have a soft spot for it but dear god Japanese fans, let it go. Its also a game where I feel gameplay wise, it was sandwiched between two superior titles in that regard.
FFVI: Yes, its probably my favorite entry but yeah, fanboys have sort of ruined part of the allure of this game and I've done my years of defending it and praising it only to realize, it really doesn't matter. I love Kefka and Terra and everything, but its not like their wasn't engaging and interesting characters before the game was released, nor is it not like better games didn't come after it.
FFVII: Same as VI except add something about style over substance and graphics, the more derogatory, probably the better.
FFX: Once again, I hate the Japanese fans for settling for one of the weakest entries in the series, and thus making sure I will never be able to forget it whenever SE feels the need to cater to fans, Flying Arrow pretty much said my sentiment about it being a very underwhelming experience compared to the previous entries. Though I will also add that this extends to its story and cast as well. After something like Tactics, VI-IX, Xenogears, Suikoden, BoF, and Wild Arms, FFX's plot just felt like a poorly written rejected anime script that just happened to have a few well written moments that had more to do with being an accident than intentional. It did little to change Final Fantasy (except make VA the norm and that's is debatably a good or bad thing) let alone the RPG genre. It settled for less at a time when it really should have tried to shoot for the stars.
FFTactics is another game that is overrated. While I've personally never played a game I felt had its level of caliber. Part of me also doesn't feel right about using it as a prime template for how it should be done. Tactics was not a perfect game, and I'll admit its fans are just as elitist and pains in the ass just like VI, VII, or Xenogears fanboys are. :p
^ Wait, so all the games are over-rated? It sounds like you're just burnt out on the fanbase, Wolf. Don't let your mind get changed by the fanboys. They are poison and must be eliminated. Though I've never really noticed the VI fanbase being particularly obnoxious. Stuck-up and elitist, yeah, but not really obnoxious.
And to completely contradict what I just said, I feel like I also need to give some props to FFIX's plot for being over-rated. It's great at the beginning and utter trash by the end. Fans like it because the final twists are pure fan-service and shout outs to the 2D games. That's cute and all, but I find it's still pretty dumb. And dumb is just dumb no matter how you slice it.
I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thinks people think a little too highly of Tactics.
I also agree 6 is too overrated. I just didn't want to add a kick to the testicles along with the throat punch that was my first post.
I think it has to do with the fact that they are so good. Both games are excellent. To me, it goes back to what I said about Xenogears. There are certain games (Xenogears, Chronotrigger, Final Fantasy Tactics or 6, Earthbound, Zelda: Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time, Secret of Mana, Suikoden II for some examples) that achieve this legendary status because they are really well made, genre shaping games. It's just that the hype builds them up to be even more than they are.
I think they're great games, but they can't live up to the insane levels of hype.
FFIX has a ton of fans on this board, but I literally cannot think of anywhere else where there are as many FFIX fans as there are here. So I wouldn't really say it's overrated overall, although it might be somewhat overrated here.
Anyway I'm not sure if I can objectively evaluate which game is the most overrated, but FFVII has definitely had the most annoying fanboys for quite some time.
Underrated = FFV and FFXII
Both are excellent games and tragically underrated. Final Fantasy XIII is a brilliant game with an incredibly interesting, varied, and beautiful game world. It has more end game content than any FF game.
Final Fantasy V is a huge improvement on IV imo. The game is epic, and has an excellent job class system.
Overrated... is Final Fantasy IV. There was serious balancing issues in the game. On the moon for instance, an enemy would hit one of your characters for 200 hp, and then the next turn, hit your character for 1000+ hp and KO your character even though your character had max health. lol FFIV has its charms, but it is overrated imo.
Hell smurfing yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamia
I've noticed this, too, especially back when I first joined up. FFIX is a fine game and it has its fans elsewhere, but it wasn't until I really started getting involved here that I noticed that most of the more vocal posters were huge fans of IX, and that IX has quite a significant following. Most polls (including the census) give VII most of the votes, but sometimes I feel like it's just something people throw down. IX easily gets the most love here (love that isn't undermined by an equal amount of hate, like VII) and I have to admit it's rubbed off on me. After I finish my playthrough of Fallout 1 I was considering finding a way to play IX and make some kind of modest Let's Play thread about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Man
Final Fantasy X anyone?
and FFIV to an extent...
I feel that fanboys are the main problem that make a game feel overrated often times. I feel sharkythesharkdogg placed my sentiments best. Its not that any of these games are bad (Except for FFX, that game just sucks) but fans and news media have over-hyped everything to the point where we lose sight of the fact they are just great games and instead we feel the need to justify them as ancient relics of greatness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Arrow
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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
Oh man... I can't believe I've seen some people suggest FFT is overrated. I agree in part because I do feel like the "strategy" comes down to spamming your cheap and overpowered moves before the enemy spams their cheap and overpowered moves, but outside of that the game is a smurfing masterpiece and and one of the most beautiful games ever made. I think beating it is indeed an accomplishment because there's some hard and just plain unfair things in the game, so I will continue to wear it like a badge of honor even if it's not necessarily the best SRPG of all time.
I'll always say FFVI because my idea of overrating something is when it gets praise that simply can't be qualified. Before I played the game all I heard about was how great the characters are, how insane the villain is, but the truth of the matter is, except for being sprites, they hardly qualify as "characters" at all. It certainly pushed some of those big moments on gamers and gets points for being perhaps the only non-linear Final Fantasy, but it's story isn't noticeably better than IV or V (<-- underrated) IMO.
Someone once had "saying FFVII is overrated is overrated" somewhere in their profile and it's true - people need to give it a rest. Yes, some people still swear by it as being such a milestone in gaming and that's because it smurfing was. All of the big hollywood set pieces that the billion dollar games of today try to live up to started with VII and even the biggest budget games have trouble emulating the seamless transition from cutscene to gameplay that made VII have such a big impact. YES its story and characters haven't aged well, in many ways they're just as paper-thin as FFVI and I'll be the first to admit it. But get over it - it'll always be venerated because of the tremendous impact it had on gamers and on gaming, even if they can't justify why the specific parts are good.
And FFX is the ish.
No, VII is just overrated and you're in denial. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
Besides...
http://imaletyoufinish.com/wp-conten...anye-kefka.jpg
andof course this.
I don't know what "ish" is, if its a Finnish word for piece of :bou::bou::bou::bou: that I wouldn't let flies near cause it is so heinous, then I totally agree. ;)Quote:
And FFX is the ish.
Seriously? Did we play the same game? Granted I agree the plots of FFV and IV are awesome and V is definitely underrated but most of the characters FFVI focused on got incredibly detailed and realistic development. Granted there are a few such as Mog, Gogo, and Umaro who are mostly in there for :bou::bou::bou::bou:s and giggles, but it's not like Cait Sith was any more serious. (Granted, Reeve was serious).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivar
Anyone noticed after i said FFVI several other people started to do so? feels like people are afraid to list it out of fear of death or something!
Anyway I kid
I agree with Tactics, I didnt list it in my first post but I do agree, I love the game and I am more then likely guilty of overrating it myself, also i never said people hate FFIX cuz of hate of VII or VIII, what i said was that people dislike IX alot imo cuz VII and VIII was a future fantasy and such while IX went back to medieval thus i think the conflict comes from that.
It's hard to say, really. If people rate it, it's because they rate it, so I can't say they're overrating it. It's all personal preference. Alternatively, if you mean that if people in general rate something that I don't rate, then it's probably FFX. I can see how people can like parts of the game but for me the characters ruined it too much - both good guys and bad guys.
But yeah, I've yet to finish IX and VI so I can't comment on those two also-highly-rated games. I rate VII as one of the best games I've played, personally, so it's hard for me to view it as an overrated game. I know others do, but that's their preference compared to mine, what can you do?