I think this will be the moment where I turn into an old man, wave my cane and say: the PS2 days, now that was something!
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I think this will be the moment where I turn into an old man, wave my cane and say: the PS2 days, now that was something!
I honestly don't see myself buying another console after this current generation. I find the older I get the more interests I have outside of gaming (fitness & weight training are taking over my life in a big way) & with the big game companies pretty much just churning out sub par games that will sell millions & the gravitation towards games almost completely based around online features, I find myself increasingly alienated as a gamer so I've found my free time is more lifting kettle bells then holding a controller. I very rarely get excited for new games any more. Borderlands 2 is honestly probably the only other new game I'll buy in 2012 & possibly MGS:R maybe.
If I'm paying full retail price for a game I want minimum 30 hours or at the very least reasons to play the 5 or 6 hour game 3 or 4 times over (multiple endings, new game plus etc). Bethesda (for all their buggy problems) & Rockstar are the only 2 game companies I feel haven't forgotten about gamers such as myself. If they lock games to PSN accounts & since pre owned games make up 3/4 of my PS3 collection that means I definitely won't bother.
Honestly, I'm thinking it's about time for a fourth party to enter the arena with a product that is better than everyone elses.
Locking games would be console suicide and Sony knows it, I call bull. They need two things to keep me interested, PS3 grade customization options (ie; swap in any laptop SATA drive, User created themes, accepting most/any Usb and blue tooth accesories rather than Officially Licensed only garbage, etc.) and at least allowing download/play of PSN purchases from this generation. I don't particularly care about disc based backwards compatability, I keep my old gen consoles hooked up all the time anyway, but not rolling over PSN stuff would bug the hell out of me.
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well a lot of gaming distributors are moving toward an account only 'license' system. for example steam games you own are actually licensed, for when 'steam' goes bankrupt one day or shuts down, all of your games will be lost forever.
Sony appears to be going this route, according to the rumour. I'm okay with that, but instead of locking the game to a particular console, which is difficult to maintain (what if you change consoles bc you damaged it?), it should be tied to your PSN account.
Sega and the Dreamcast 2? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar
I'm skeptical about whether any of this is true. The tech garbage makes it sound authentic but even I can't imagine Sony trying to lock out the used game business. It is a necessary evil of the gaming market that's mainly a by product of the high cost of games and systems, which in turn created the viscous circle the gaming world has found itself in. The backwards compatibility doesn't quite bother me cause I feel the PS3 has definetly been the weakest of the Sony systems so no real love loss if I can't play them on the PS4, and I find it hard to believe that Sony is going to just drop old PSN accounts and make you re-buy your old school PS1 games and PSN exclusives titles. So I'm pretty confident that at least that will transfer over unless Sony want it's only decent part of it's company to go down in flames like the rest of the company has been.
As far as tech goes, and this goes for all three companies, I don't give much of a crap about HDTV, excellent audio and compatibility with every electric device in my house. I just want a gaming console, not a home entertainment center that will jack up the price to absurdity. As far as the tech side goes, all I want to hear about the next generation is from the developers themselves who I hope will simply explain how the games hardware will be cost effective and easy to use, so I can get great games in half the development time of today's titles and a fair bit less expensive since those development times will be cost effective.
If they make a dreamcast 2 within five years I will buy you one.
Backwards compatibility has been pretty smurfed since the PS2. 360's was shoddy at best, PS3 was great if you got the original 40G version, otherwise you only have PS1 emulation. While nice, it kind of sucks it won't play PS2. The only one of this generation that was fully backwards compatible at all times is the Wii, the console in which no one gave two trouts about it's ability to play Gamecube games.
I'm not as skeptical as some about removing used games for a few simple reasons:
1) Half the industry is going on about how bad they are. I don't think half of them have thought things through (what happens to the industry when the people who resell games to buy new ones can't do that anymore? Particularly when everyone has yearly releases of something or other?), but the reality is that many developers are in favour of stopping resale, and sadly, they're even succeeding in convincing customers that giving up their rights for absolutely nothing in return is necessarily a good thing.
2) Steam has basically already done away with used sales (though honestly, I think they may move to being able to trade games now that trading is built into Steam. They seem to be making that progression there). Steam has shown that under the right circumstances, many gamers are ok with not being able to resell games.
The big problem for Sony and Microsoft though is that the reason people put up with that aspect of Steam is because of frequent, ridiculously awesome sales, and a service that is both free, and generally just works better than anything on consoles. There's also the problem that if Sony or Microsoft don't both get rid of used sales, then the one who allows them basically wins price conscious customers and game traders by default.
We'll have to see how it all plays out, but honestly, there is good reason to be a lot more concerned about a used game ban by console makers now than there was when the PS3 was coming out.
If anyone was to lock games to eradicate the used games market then it'd probably work out like how EA does it with Fifa and Mass Effect 3 and so forth whereby: An Online License is required for full online play (note the higher level of online multiplayer in games, even Mass Effect 3 had it) Now if you buy the game second hand, you can buy a license seperately online but they cost around £10 or so. Now purchasing the license isn't so bad if you're paying £20 less than the retail new copy considering £10 saved is £10 in your pocket. However when you consider popular titles like Mass Effect 3, Fifa 12 and so forth are guaranteed to remain at a high price on the product market until the end of their "hype" (in effect for Fifa this is when the next Fifa comes out) it becomes a moot point. Fifa 12 pre-owned for example will set me back around £35 in most places. Then I'll have to buy the online license to play Paul and Dan (about the only people I would consider buying the game for) which costs more than the money for a new copy
EA does that?! Wtf. :colbert:
There's an image that's been circling around!
http://www.assumingcontrol.net/wp-co...le-of-life.jpg
Who knows if it's legit or not!
that is a really really old picture.
Makes sense now though huh? :D
That is the ugliest console I have ever seen.