I haven't played the first two, but what's with the 3&4 hate :confused: I quite enjoyed them.
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I haven't played the first two, but what's with the 3&4 hate :confused: I quite enjoyed them.
People hate 3 because they don't recognize good gameplay. People hate 4 because it's a downgrade from 3.
The plots are what mostly kill both games for people. The 4D plot twist pretty much killed a lot of people's interest in the series, and retroactively made the earlier games cheesy. SO4 starts with a decent premise but goes to weirdness quickly and it's cast is pretty atrocious compared to earlier installments. Like the writers were going out of their way to hit every single overused anime archetype which many Western gamers are sick of seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faris
Star Ocean has always been the series that shows that while good gameplay can keep you from being forgotten, it can't save a game where all the other elements are bad.
I like world of 2 because it is CG and very detailed but 3 and 4 are way more fun games overall than 1 and 2, Battles in 1 and 2 don't feel like action-y at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faris
I loved the gameplay in SO3. A LOT. It was that ridiculous plot twist at the end that ruined it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
Why was it ridiculous?
Deception, namely. Finding out that the entire universe is just part of an MMORPG played by people in another dimension really just ruined my motivation to want to finish the game when the universe is just going to get deleted anyway. We were all just insignificant bits of data on a server somewhere!
I have a strong feeling that it's going to be a western like space shooter and not to with Star Ocean or JRPG games at all.
Or a space like ios game or online game.
Yeah, it's kind of like how we're insignificant collections of atoms on a planet somehere!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
If you continued playing though, you'll find out that the entire "game" ended up some sort of sub-physical dimension that was no longer bound by the computers it initially ran on.
I think people who suddenly thought everything became insignificant after that revelation kind of missed the point.
I did beat the game. With tenacity at that! The power went out when I went through the Shrine of Kaddan and I was knocked all the way back to effin' Flagship Diplo since I did not save responsibly and got really overconfident with AIMING DEVICE steamrolling everything in my path. Then the PS2 broke and I had to borrow my friend's to get through the last two dungeons.
I see the existential point of view you have; I just wasn't expecting the game to end that way! It reminded me too much of what Xenogears did once they went past their deadline.
Well it caught me off guard, and it was a bit sudden, perhaps. I still don't feel like it made the game feel pointless, or took anything away from how awesomely fun it is to play.
Every single encounter in that game was an absolute blast. Perhaps a SHOTGUN BLAST.
Star Ocean 3 is an amazing game. One of my favorite games ever. I was a diehard SO2 fan when it came out too... but 3 surpassed 2 for me.
SO4 on the other hand... I really didn't think it was possible for me to hate a SO game... but yeah, 4 was a major disappointment for me..
I understand that the universe became completely independent, but it is implied that the threats encountered on Roak in the first Star Ocean game and the Ten Wise Men were just part of game events or something like that. I don't know. I'm not completely sure about it, but it still bothers me. The only concept that I liked about the fourth dimension was that the character Elena on Elicoor II was implied to be a fourth dimensional being trapped in the game, but this type of plotline could have been explored using other technologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
I have to wonder how much of it was planned as Eternal Sphere was the ultimate weapon of Claude in the second Star Ocean game, well before the Eternal Sphere plot point in Star Ocean 3.
OH GOD LOOK AT ALL THE WORDS.What could it be! What's Bandiera mean o.o
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