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NeoCracker
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Skyblade
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NeoCracker
I'm with Wolf here. I think a fair amount of Cross is better knowing the story behind Trigger.
And I think Trigger is the better game anyway, though both are fun and worth playing.
Explain:
(SPOILER)How did Dalton possibly build a tiny town into a military force capable of taking over Guardia in five years? Especially given that Crono, Lucca, and Nadia are each capable of destroying Lavos on their own, and Dalton is the most pathetic boss/leader in the game?
If you can't explain that, how can you possibly come to terms with any of the other nonsensical references that twist and distort what Chrono Trigger gave us?
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1. He had access to both the magic of the past and the technology of the future. This is a huge advantage.
2. We know nothing of his actual plans to win past that.
3. Fighting one thing is a different beast entirely then fighting off armies. It's not so bad considering he could have tried a war of attrition.
4. Don't forget he had the assistance of Lynx and Harle during this time, it was hardly just Dalton. An agent of Fate and one of the worlds Dragons are a bit of a scale tipper.
Your move Skyblade. ;P
(SPOILER)1. He fell through a time gate with nothing but the clothes on his back. He had access to his own magic, which is completely pitiful and only does anything when he manages to get your party with a "look over there" move. He had access to zero technology and magic outside of that, and he had little brains, having stolen the Blackbird and the Epoch, rather than developed anything himself.
2. Golems. That's about it.
3. Except... You face armies. You wipe the floor with Magus's army, remember? Or what about the Robot armies in the future? You know, the ones about seven times more powerful than Dalton's cronies, yet you can still annihilate with a single spell?
4. Both being inferior in power to Lavos, and therefore not enough of a balance tipper to upset anything.
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1. He could view the different time periods, which is how he found out about you. It's not to much of a stretch to assume he could have used this chance to grap who knows what from the future. Remember, in Cross they did have Robots to fight with.
2. It's vague what exactly Dalton was able to do in this time rift he was it. It's presumptious to assume ONLY him and his magic was available.
3. As the rulers of Guardia, Chrono and Marle weren't likely on the front lines. Their advantage here is also kind of reduced by, I don't know, Dalton and Lynx's tendancy to not fight fair? We saw lynx's infiltration of Viper manor in Chrono Cross, and you must realize he fights dirty.
4. In context of the story, Lavos isn't beaten in a one on one fight. It's 3 of your people that do it. If we assume Frog was there at the time as well, it's a matter of isolation. Getting them picked off one at a time. Considering the strength of Harle and Lynx, and again the removal of fair fighting, more then conceivable this becomes possible.
5. Also, Dalton knows the kind of Magic Chrono, Marle, and Frog are all capable of. He also has the advantage in preparing for that, something Lavos had no way of doing. ;P
6. Finally, you are assuming Chrono, Marle, and frog were all still Full bore, and ready to handle the enemies when the fight started.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that there should be more explanation. The biggest problem here is not the lack of plausability of this happening, it's the lack of details given. There are several different things that could have caused this to happen, its simply the fact we aren't told what it was that creates problems. Theres to many way open wholes in their explination to give any real clue as to how it happens.
I'm simply saying that while this was a pretty poor way to explain the events with the two games, but it hardly creates some giant mess of nonsense.
