Lost Forever moments in gameplay

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

I don't mind missable items or events in a game cause I feel it gives more incentive to play through the game again.

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

One time in FF VIII I was trying to do a clean run through the game. I wanted to get all the GFs before the Disc 4 and do the sidequests. But after leaving from Dollet I remembered that I forgot to draw Siren! I was already in Timber when I remembered that. SO I started all over...

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I think you have a 2nd chance to draw all the draw-able GFs... in Ultimecia's castle *sweatdrop*.

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Originally Posted by Axem Titanium

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

One time in FF VIII I was trying to do a clean run through the game. I wanted to get all the GFs before the Disc 4 and do the sidequests. But after leaving from Dollet I remembered that I forgot to draw Siren! I was already in Timber when I remembered that. SO I started all over...

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I think you have a 2nd chance to draw all the draw-able GFs... in Ultimecia's castle *sweatdrop*.

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Yes I know, but I wanted the MagBonus early in the game.

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

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Originally Posted by Axem Titanium

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

One time in FF VIII I was trying to do a clean run through the game. I wanted to get all the GFs before the Disc 4 and do the sidequests. But after leaving from Dollet I remembered that I forgot to draw Siren! I was already in Timber when I remembered that. SO I started all over...

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I think you have a 2nd chance to draw all the draw-able GFs... in Ultimecia's castle *sweatdrop*.

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Yes I know, but I wanted the MagBonus early in the game.

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When it came to finding energy crystals within disc 4 it was....aggravating.

If a game is good enough that I'm going to want to play it more than once, then I don't missable items or events or characters, as they enable me to continue playing the game in a new way every time. If the game isn't good enough for me to want to play it more than once, the existence of missable items doesn't matter.

Miss-able stuff, items in particular is often enough for me to loose interest in a game entirely. I don't care about miss-ables for the sake of completion, but if I don't have/am unable to get all the useful stuff at the end of the game because I was playing for fun and not following a walk-through it really ticks me off. If I am worried about missing stuff I can't come back and get then I tend to not have a whole lot of fun, and in many cases will just give up on the game entirely.

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Originally Posted by Reverof Enola

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

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Originally Posted by Axem Titanium

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

One time in FF VIII I was trying to do a clean run through the game. I wanted to get all the GFs before the Disc 4 and do the sidequests. But after leaving from Dollet I remembered that I forgot to draw Siren! I was already in Timber when I remembered that. SO I started all over...

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I think you have a 2nd chance to draw all the draw-able GFs... in Ultimecia's castle *sweatdrop*.

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Yes I know, but I wanted the MagBonus early in the game.

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When it came to finding energy crystals within disc 4 it was....aggravating.

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Disc 4? I always managed to get those before it. .... the Esthar grind....

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Originally Posted by Del Murder

The FFXII Zodiac Spear is the one for me. What a stupid set of requirements to obtain an item. The treasure system in XII was stupid in general.

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Thankfully, some of those things were fixed in IZJS. If they ever make a HD rerelease of it, let's hope they'll base it on that.

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

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Originally Posted by Reverof Enola

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

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Originally Posted by Axem Titanium

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Originally Posted by Gamblet

One time in FF VIII I was trying to do a clean run through the game. I wanted to get all the GFs before the Disc 4 and do the sidequests. But after leaving from Dollet I remembered that I forgot to draw Siren! I was already in Timber when I remembered that. SO I started all over...

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I think you have a 2nd chance to draw all the draw-able GFs... in Ultimecia's castle *sweatdrop*.

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Yes I know, but I wanted the MagBonus early in the game.

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When it came to finding energy crystals within disc 4 it was....aggravating.

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That' the thing I never knew you could do that until disc 4 starts. Another careless mistake where you play without a walkthrough.

Disc 4? I always managed to get those before it. .... the Esthar grind....

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The Zodiac Spear isn't truly lost, there is an infinitesimal chance it's in a chest in the Henne Mines. :p Still a terrible design choice. :p

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Originally Posted by qwertysaur

The Zodiac Spear isn't truly lost, there is an infinitesimal chance it's in a chest in the Henne Mines. :p Still a terrible design choice. :p

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The treasure system in XII is something to be desired to be sure. The Cerobi Steppe.. I spent hours in that place... just opening chests... and chests... and chests...

It is most certainly not something to be desired. :colbert:

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Originally Posted by Formalhaut

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Originally Posted by qwertysaur

The Zodiac Spear isn't truly lost, there is an infinitesimal chance it's in a chest in the Henne Mines. :p Still a terrible design choice. :p

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The treasure system in XII is something to be desired to be sure. The Cerobi Steppe.. I spent hours in that place... just opening chests... and chests... and chests...

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And then you make an Undine Entity mad and it murders your party and you get to do it all over again. :p

I see less of these in modern games. I know that it was extremely common in Final Fantasy IX, but I see less of it in Final Fantasy X and beyond.

Are you joking? 90% of the areas in FFXIII you can never return to. Plus FFXII has the whole Zodiac debacle.