Who would win in a fight, Andraste or the Archdemon?

Could the Maker make a sword so big that even he couldn't wield it?

Even if the Maker does exist, he sure was content to let Andraste's fate play out when she was betrayed by her husband and burned at the stake. Nor does he seem to care all that much about defeating archdemons, since the Wardens are the only ones who can handle it and they aren't really affiliated with the Chantry.

I figured the Maker wasn't going to intervene much directly since the whole Black City incident, maybe he just did the Andraste thing to help the world carry on while he was busy elsewhere.

Andraste, whether empowered by the Maker or not, would smurfing crush any Archdemon though.

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Originally Posted by Formalhaut

Eh, bringing a God into battle is just cheating, really. That's assuming that the Maker actually exists in this universe and even if he does, whether or not he's an actual God or a just a souped up version of something else.

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The Archdemons are the Old Gods though so I mean it is already a stacked battle.

Fair point, though archdemons present as just really powerful dragons.

This whole thing is moot anyway as even if Andraste 'killed' the archdemon it'd just resurrect without a Warden's strike.

Not necessarily given that the lore establishes that divinity does exist even if it is more like Greek gods than monotheistic God, this suggests while the Maker might very well exist or had existed, and would possibly help Andraste. It could be within the Maker's power to permanent slay it. Also, Andraste could just become a Warden. Not that hard, just drink some dark spawn blood (because if you think they're won't be any around helping their master?)

I find it very interesting that the thread poses the question of Andraste versus "the" Archdemon.

Which Archdemon is "the" Archdemon, exactly? The one from Origins? It's dead. In fact, all of the Archdemons that have existed in the past are dead (there are only, what, four of them total so far? Of a possible seven, IIRC?).

Andraste is dead too... Though, depending on the interpretation of the Herald event, she has some existence left on another realm, while the Archdemon is just gone.

So, I'll go with Andraste.

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Which Archdemon is "the" Archdemon, exactly? The one from Origins? It's dead. In fact, all of the Archdemons that have existed in the past are dead (there are only, what, four of them total so far? Of a possible seven, IIRC?).

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The question was first posed by a couple of NPCs in Awakenings so I'm assuming they're talking about a theoretical matchup between Andraste and the most recent Archdemon (i.e. the one in Origins)

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I find it very interesting that the thread poses the question of Andraste versus "the" Archdemon.

Which Archdemon is "the" Archdemon, exactly? The one from Origins? It's dead. In fact, all of the Archdemons that have existed in the past are dead (there are only, what, four of them total so far? Of a possible seven, IIRC?).

Andraste is dead too... Though, depending on the interpretation of the Herald event, she has some existence left on another realm, while the Archdemon is just gone.

So, I'll go with Andraste.

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*Puts on nerd hat*

There's been five blights, and thus five archdemons that went and got themselves killed:

- Dumat, Dragon of Silence
- Zazikel, Dragon of Chaos
- Toth, Dragon of Fire
- Andoral, Dragon of Slaves
- Urthemiel, Dragon of Beauty

There's two left:

- Razikale, Dragon of Mystery
- Lusacan, Dragon of Night


Of course, that's assuming that there's not an hidden eighth Old God, of which there are arguments for there being one.

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Originally Posted by Skyblade

I find it very interesting that the thread poses the question of Andraste versus "the" Archdemon.

Which Archdemon is "the" Archdemon, exactly? The one from Origins? It's dead. In fact, all of the Archdemons that have existed in the past are dead (there are only, what, four of them total so far? Of a possible seven, IIRC?).

Andraste is dead too... Though, depending on the interpretation of the Herald event, she has some existence left on another realm, while the Archdemon is just gone.

So, I'll go with Andraste.

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*Puts on nerd hat*

There's been five blights, and thus five archdemons that went and got themselves killed:

- Dumat, Dragon of Silence
- Zazikel, Dragon of Chaos
- Toth, Dragon of Fire
- Andoral, Dragon of Slaves
- Urthemiel, Dragon of Beauty

There's two left:

- Razikale, Dragon of Mystery
- Lusacan, Dragon of Night


Of course, that's assuming that there's not an hidden eighth Old God, of which there are arguments for there being one.

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Cthulhu, Dragon of Insanity.

Thanks for the correction, though.

What will happen when they're all dead?

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Thanks for the correction, though.

What will happen when they're all dead?

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No worries! :D

Honestly, that is a good question. After every blight, especially the fourth one, lots of people kept saying "yep, this is the last one, definitely", only for them to be bitten in the ass again.

As for when all seven are killed? Who can say? There's a possibility of both Razikale and Lusacan teaming up to wreck havoc across all of Thedas. Their titles are vaguely similar (Mystery and Night), so that's an idea if BioWare wanted a ME: 3 style ending.

Otherwise, who knows? The Old Gods are one of the most enduring mysteries that hasn't been answered yet. You just know there's something off about the received wisdom and lore about them, but there's nothing that can be proven.