The "bloke" was one of the people that later attended the Jenova Reunion. Just go with that, it's not as confusing.
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The "bloke" was one of the people that later attended the Jenova Reunion. Just go with that, it's not as confusing.
That's right. He's the first clone to appear.
*Agrees*
There is no way it could be Zack. Not only because I think he is as dead as a desert night. If they really had revived him with Jenova cells, then
and the bloke in the pipe definitely has a head. Barrett would have pointed it out otherwise.Quote:
Please, remember, Zack took a burst from an automatic machine gun, in the head, at point blank range. That means that his head is splattered across that cliff near Midgar.
with ff7's blocky graphics, that could have been Zack's chest he was shot in. Which would mean his lungs and ribcage are nothing but a jumbled mass of red pulp, but that's easier for Jenova cells to fix than something so complex as a head. Vincent's arm wasn't fixed because it wasn't supposed to be. Vincent was shot and killed. Where in there does he lose his arm? He was given synthetic parts as well as Jenova cells. We can infer that he had Jenova cells in him not just by his limit breaks, but because we know Hojo is obsessed with Jenova cell research.
Zack did have a bit less of a reaction to the Jenova cells than cloud did, but that's because he's stronger, and his body was able to handle it. He still has them, and they still work. They just don't take him over and control him like they do to cloud.
Let me get this straight: you think Zack sat in front of his ex-best-friend and his ex-girlfriend, and NEITHER of them recognised him?
Zack didn't have "a bit less of a reaction" than Cloud. According to Hojo's notes, he had no reaction at all.Quote:
Originally posted by Nicholas D. Wolfwood
Zack did have a bit less of a reaction to the Jenova cells than cloud did, but that's because he's stronger, and his body was able to handle it. He still has them, and they still work. They just don't take him over and control him like they do to cloud.
If Jenova cells restore your body so well, then how come Jenova herself was (not really that hard) defeated when she could just be constantly restoring all of her organs and body parts-if cells could bring someone back to life-then woudln't the actually body be simply immunne to just about everythign, yet you defeat Jenova like 5 times....
where d'you find that out?..Quote:
Originally posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
Zack didn't have "a bit less of a reaction" than Cloud. According to Hojo's notes, he had no reaction at all.
Search for Hojo's notes in the back room of the study beneath Shinra Mansion. Cloud and Zack are referred to as "specimens" and not by their names, but you can tell which is which by Hojo's comments.
Zack isn't taken over by them the way cloud is. But they're still in there, and still capable of repairing him. To the guy who has really bad grammar and made his post one long run on sentence, the reparation process isn't instantaneous. If the body is completely obliterated, there's not much they can do. Jenova can obviously build, because you can see the monster that's created from just her ARM. As for why they didn't recognize him, remember it's been a long time. He's been scarred by both sephy's sword and the bullets in his chest, a lot of reconstruction went on. His build would have easily shifted, and his face mutated by the Jenova.
One of the people standing around the pipe, or someone in the party would have made a remark about that, I think. I never got the idea that the bloke in the pipe was meant to look mutated, with a shifted figure and an alien head. The only remarkable thing about him was his very limited vocabulary and the fact that noone knew him.
The trophies might be from the Golden Saucer, or perhaps they are the loot from the war in Wutai. That man is not Zack.
I didn't mean that drastically mutated. He would still look human. But more like a different human.
With no disrespect, sir, listen to the theories you're coming up with. You're reaching an awful lot.
If the sick man was Zack, the script would have included some substantial hint of it, like having Aeris say that he reminds her of someone, or something.
so if he was able to handle and control them, where did he go? he wouldn't have gone to the reunion becuase he could hav resistedQuote:
Originally posted by Nicholas D. Wolfwood
Zack did have a bit less of a reaction to the Jenova cells than cloud did, but that's because he's stronger, and his body was able to handle it. He still has them, and they still work. They just don't take him over and control him like they do to cloud.
He DID got to the Reunion - that's why he wasn't there later.