Penance

so is it safe to say no one has beaten him as of yet? i mean he is ridiculously hard, harder than ruby would people say? hardest boss ever in a final fantasy series?

Actually quite a few people have beaten him, myself included (without Zanmato of course).

He's definately the hardest boss in any Final Fantasy game ever, there's no question - he's not TOO hard though. He just takes a stupid amount of preperation and time.

what i find hard to believe one winged angel is that you claim you had roughly 17,000hp for your characters? how were you able to beat the dark aeons? yojimbos zanmato? cuz if ur hp levels are 17,000 that means your other stats musn't be that high?

can someone tell me what penance is? does it explain it anywhere? or is it just some random boss that is really strong?

Big boss, big ouch

and actually my HP was low because i was focusing on the other stats, please, don't lower me to the "Zanmato" level

Yep, just to reiterate - you can max out your stats using the Monster Arena but you get to choose what you're maxing. HP isn't such a big deal - so long as your defence is high and you've got protect on then Yojimbo will never do 17,000 damage anyway - nowhere near.

prodigy, explain maxing your stats at the monsters arena without maxing every other stat almost?

What you do is you fight a certain monster over and over again - once that you know will drop 2 stat spheres (e.g. strength) when you kill it. Keep doing it till you've got enough. Then you buy some clear spheres from the guy (after you've got 5 of every monster). You go through the grid removing ANYTHING which isn't a +4 stat or +300hp, +40mp and replace it with the new +4 stats you've been collecting, activating as you go. Then when you get to 255 with a stat you move onto the next one.

i heard about that, but does it have to be an original monster or area conquest? 5 of every monster? you mean catching like 5 great malboros from inside sin etc?

Yeah, that's what i did, and also, Aeons make wonderful shields ;)

he means 5 of ever monster, so yes, great marlboros too, then he'll flog you clear spheres at 10k a pop

does he sell you attribute spheres like strength, defence etc? or do you have to get them off creature conquest monsters?

Sadly you have to get all of these from certain monsters at the arena. It takes a very long time to max out your sphere grid!

Be patient.

wait prodigy, one question. If you have an already activated strength +1 node for tidus and his strength is say 150 when you go to put a clear node in and then another strength sphere in , willhe lose that 1 strength and go to 149 and then go up 4? or will he keepit and gain another 4?

Any nodes that you remove which have been activated will remove those stats from the characters. So in your example if Tidus has activated a +1 strength sphere and then you take this out and replace it with a +4 sphere and activate that his strength will go up by an aggregate of 3.

I want to meet Penance but i have a problem. I defeated all the dark aeons except for Yojimbo. The problem is that i just don't meet him 5 times but only four times. I tryed so much times. All my charachters have curseproof - ribbon armor about three times and I do not mention the number of weapons with break damage limit gained. But the problem is: Where the **** is Yojimbo the 5th time.When I walk out the entrance I can start all over again and when I walk back into the cavern again I never meet him the 5th time. Who can help me. After 196 hours I want to kill Penance.

Ooh and another question by the way: I love master spheres to activate my luck nodes. This Saves a lot of time cause I do not need to kill the Earth Eater over ander over. So are these only gained after killing dark aeons as rare item and create Nemesis in the monster Arena. Or is there any other way? Bribe won't help, I tryed each monster.