Why FFIX is the Worst FF EVER!

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Originally posted by SpikingZero
Though to be honest, FFVIII and FFIX have this one problem in common: (SPOILER)the final bosses of both games just suddenly appeared out of the blue.

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(SPOILERS FOR MANY FF GAMES)The same can be said about FF1's Chaos, FF3's Dark Cloud, FF4's Zeromus and FFX's Yu Yevon.

And what's this about FF9 being too easy? When it was released, everyone claimed it was too hard. And it is harder than FF7 and FF8. In FF7, you can equip lots of materia and all your guys become juggernauts who can do everything, and there's nothing hard about the game, really. Don't even get me started with FF8. You can make yourself totally invincible with the junction system, and if you're too lazy to do that, just use auto-junctioning. Even that will make you invincible. Meanwhile, FF9 has its hard parts. At the end of Disc 1 and the beginning of Disc 2, you'll have to fight carefully because you have no healers. When you're en-route to (SPOILER)Oeilvert, you'll face extremely hard enemies, and the enemies in (SPOILER)Kuja's Desert Palace are hard as well. And for the bosses, (SPOILER)Necron and Ozma can be extremely hard because Grand Cross + Neutron Ring combo might really annihilate your party, same for Curse + Meteor combo.

Well... at least Necron explained his purpose. (SPOILER)Ultimecia said nothing the whole game. and really had no reason to fight the guys.... besides the fact that they were SeeDs created to kill her.... hmm.. well in that case, I guess they were both meaningful. Although I think Necron could have been used better. He had tthe potential to be maybe even better than Sephiroth AND Kuja. But they didn't use him right

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Originally posted by ShadyMilkman
Kuja began his deeds for the good old reason of wanting to be the most powerful creature in the universe. Every bad guy wants that. But, later in the story, it becomes a search for his origins. He feels he must find his birthplace after seeing Zidane. Why? Zidane's tail. Kuja has one too. When he finally discovers his origins, he realizes that he wasn't even born. He was created in a test tube. Talk about an ego buster. And also discovers that his lifetime is extremely limited. This is why he goes after the origin of ALL things, the crystal. He decides in his mind that if he is destined to die, everyone else will die with him.[/spoiler]

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I disagree with everything you said about Kuja with the exception of him having a deep story.

(SPOILER) You see, Kuja's main reason for doing what he did during most of the game before you took the trip to Terra was to prove his worth and overthrow Garland. From the beginning, Kuja was an egomanic. A narcasstic, self-absorbed individual who felt that every other living being was beneath him. And for a time, Garland treated Kuja as number one, since Kuja was doing a good job stirring up war on Gaia, and advancing the transfer of souls. The only problem was that Garland felt Kuja was good enough to finish the job, so he created Zidane. Obviously, being the egotistical man Kuja was, he couldn't accept that there was someone more powerful than him, so Kuja stranded Zidane on Gaia so he wouldn't be competition. Garland didn't really do anything about this because Kuja was still doing a good enough job at stirring up war, so Garland didn't get involved.

The problem with that was that since Garland didn't get involved, Kuja was free to think up plans to overthrow Garland, since he wasn't powerful enough by himself to get the job done. That's what the Eidolons were for. Kuja would use the Eidolons, namely Alexander, to overthrow Garland. When Garland finally discovered Kuja's plan, he showed up in the Invincible and took Alexander out, preventing Kuja from gaining control of it, and thus ruining Kuja's plans at the time.

Since that happened, Kuja kidnapped Eiko to try to extract her Eidolons as he had done to Garnet. Problem was that Eiko was too young, and he was stopped by Eiko's moogle who Tranced and turned into an Eidolon. Since that happened, Kuja devised a plan to get himself to Trance by channeling all the souls inside the Invincible into himself, and then fighting your party to activate the Trance. Once he Tranced, you'll notice that he devestated your party by casting Ultima, and finally overthrew Garland. Kuja achieved what he wanted. He wanted the recognition of being more powerful than Garland, and being more powerful than Zidane. Problem was that Garland dropped the bombshell to Kuja that just like the Black Mages Kuja created, he too had a limited life which he was about to reach. At this point, everything Kuja was, everything he worked for became completely and utterly pointless, and that fact drove Kuja mad. And Kuja was so egotistical that he tried to end all life because he decided that there should be no life without him.
Now I'm done with Kuja.

As far as Sephiroth goes,(SPOILER) after he turns up in the present tense, all he wants is to be God. There's no other motive driving him. Before he fell into the lifestream, he was of the belief that he was an Ancient and that the planet should belong to him. He actually had an interesting backstory to him except that Square didn't follow through with it. Because he went from believing that he was an ancient and that the world was stolen from him and his "mother" to just wanting to be God. Quite simply, the Sephiroth at the end wasn't anywhere close to being as deep as the Sephiroth in the flashbacks. A shame, really.

ummm... I think our views of Kuja really aren't that different. You just sound better saying it. I don't have that sort of flair for words.

Oh...then I'm mistaken. It just sounded like we have different views on Kuja's backstory.

Are you a poet or novelist by chance? Cause you made Kuja's story sound really cool. Yeah, I think all those things you said, but I'm too lazy to type all that.

Hey, FF9 isn't the worst and there is no worst ff yoo know.I simply adore this game and one of the best(FF8 is better) final fantasies!Who cares if it looks childish it still is one of the greatest.I hate it when people thinks some final fantasies are the worst:mad2: ...But believe me ff9 is such an awesome game.

ff9 was an okay final fantasy.
Heres my list of ff:

1.FF8
2.-3.FF6
2.-3,FF3j
4.FF5
5.FF9
6.FF7
7.FF4
8.FF1
9.-12.The gameboy ffs
13.FF2J

Sephiroth is far deeper than American Badass gives him credit for. If you believe the same version I do then his story is deeper still. I'm not going to explain either version now because they're both far too complex.

IX is far easier than VII and VIII, for the simple fact that you don't have to do anything. VII and VIII if you wanted to be strong you actually had to think, and arrange your materia/junction. In IX all you did was level up and equip new weapons whenever the game presented them. No though or skill involved

I think VII and VIII were too easy because yuo could turn any character into an unstoppable juggernot with ease. You could use HP-restore linked to KOR and Mime on the same person. Then they could beat anything by themselves. And in VIII you just use 4X element defense Junction with Meteor, Ultima, and two others that i cant remember and you absorb EVERYthing. Which also makes you invincible. So, what's so dad-gon hard about that?

How hard the game is just depends on your strategy. My strategy made the game easier;
Zidane does a normal attack, followed by Vivi performing his most powerful magic based on the enemy's stats. Then Garnet will either Cure, or summon Odin or Levithan. Steiner follows and finishes by using a high power Sword Strike.
Thats just me. My one friend makes ff8 easy, by doing this
All charachters juncion Curaga, thus giving them 9,999 hp. Squall goes into overdrive, and uses whichever overdrive he chooses. Usually Zell follows up with a GF, and the next characther the same. How hard a game is, depends all upon your strategy. (although, flaring the heck out of somebody helps too):thumb:

Exactly what Vincent06 said. Though in VII and VIII you actually had to think up your strategy, and as ShadyMilkman didn't point out, GET the equipment (KOTR, Mime, Meteor and Ultima aren't easy if you don't know the game). IX just hands you everything on a plate when the game wants you to have it.

Oh please, Eights crappy Junction system didn't even compare to Nines battle system. It might have been simpler, but at least it didn't totally SUCK! Nines battle system was an interesting take on some of the older battle systems. It was supposed to be a throw back to older RPGs, and the results were leaps and bounds better than the Junction or Sphere systems.

I have to disagree with you. You may not have liked the game but that doesn't make it the worst FF. And it's not "because it is" it's because you didn't like it. :p

Anyway to discuss what you mentioned:

1)ITS TOO EASY
Ok it was relatively easy if you just played it straight through but I think this is true for a lot of FF games, but as is also true with other FF's there are extra challenges to make it hard for you! For example, Ozma and Hades (I haven't fought either but I've heard they are hard).

Then there are things like Chocobo Hot and Cold, which may not be very hard but it's time consuming and can be challenging.
But I didn't find FFIX any easier than FFX or FFVII (the two I have played), in fact I'd say FFX was the easiest if you avoid the Dark Aeons and Monster Arena creatures.

Sure FFIX wasn't hard but nor were FFVII or FFX (I can't comment on VIII as I haven't played it very much).


2) CHARACTERS

Well what you say isn't very clear, I mean whimsical and pointless? Why? I loved the design of the characters but that's just my opinion and they weren't pointless either although I didn't use characters like Amarant and Freya very often, that's just cos I chose not to develop them.


3) MAGIC SYSTEM

The magic system was just different, that's all - different. As all the FF's have a slightly different system. Personally I loved this system it was fun getting a new weapon and seeing what you could learn from it, then spending time training so you could learn abilities faster.

I'm sorry but I don't call the FFVII system deep, just putting materia onto whoever you want? At least in FFIX people had their own unique spells, or abilities which made the game much more interesting.
And FFX, just moving around a sphere grid isn't particularly difficult or deep either.

All these systems are just different and should be appreciated for what they are alone, not compared to another FF.

Anyway, I loved FFIX, it was fun and that's the most important thing to me :)

I couldn't agree with you more on the whole Magic System part.