Your surroundings shape your clothes. Example: It's hot outside, you dont bundle up in sweatpants. It's cold outside, you dont go out in short-shorts. Yuna's home is tropical. Obviously she isnt going to need a lot of clothes.
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Your surroundings shape your clothes. Example: It's hot outside, you dont bundle up in sweatpants. It's cold outside, you dont go out in short-shorts. Yuna's home is tropical. Obviously she isnt going to need a lot of clothes.
Well, I don't mind about the way a character dresses, as long as it reflects his/her personality...
I remember that in FF6 Terra's clothes was pretty sparce, and Celes was wearing a white cape with something like a bathing suit... If it had beautiful 3d graphics it would be slutty? I don't think so.
Anyway, I think that anyone that says that a game is bad because a character dresses in a naughty way is wrong. There are a lot of better reasons to don't like a game... I'm really worried about a serious lack of creativity in new games, for example...
I can't beleive that no one has mentioned Tales of Phantasia...there wasn't any real showing of anything...but some of the convesations were questionable...I still liked the game. I actually thought those convesations were funny.I would get FFX-2 if it weren't for the fact that I want FFXI more. NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonnawatch Trigun...more
>>> If the game is fun and have a decent plot, I dont care if all the characters are naked.
Anyway I still like more the old FFs than the new ones.
Again, that's exactly what I said, if you put the pieces together. Your surroundings shape who you are, which then shapes how you dress. You know as well as I do that there are other themes here besides Yuna simply wearing less because the weather is hot. Even the magazines recognize this, and have made many jokes about the sex issue and Yuna. Don't try to deny the connection. I've even heard of two guys in a game store talking about buying FFX-2 because Yuna is sexy. The sex appeal is there, and if that's what Square is using to sell games as a primary method, it shows that they're fresh out of good ideas.Quote:
Your surroundings shape your clothes.
Period.
I didnt deny any connection. Some people surely buy the game for the appearance of the characters. You havent played this game. You know nothing about the storyline. You have no idea if it's innovative, if there's character growth, etc. So because Square changed clothes on them it means they're out of ideas? Because Square showed some skin? Um... look at Tifa. At Selphie. At all the eyecandy Square has had. And more importantly, look at the other games they're coming out with. Tactics Advace, Crystal... um... the one for Game Cube... if they're so out of ideas that they have to use sex appeal, why arent they using sex appeal in those games?
I never said the sex appeal wasnt there. But I have yet to see how making the main female character sexy makes it a bad game. Especially when you havent played it or heard anything about the storyline. If she was in a fur parka and sweat pants, yet the rest of the game was exactly the same, would it still suck, and would people be in such a tizzy over it?
Sure, sex sells. Square is a company, and profits come first. They always have. They arent out there to pour their souls into these video games (well they may do that, but the main purpose is profit). Yes, some people will buy the game because Yuna is showing skin. Some will buy it because they like FF. And some will forego it all together because they're too busy freaking out like virginal school marms because they see skin.
You people are making a big deal out of it... Does it matter if they're making money because a character has big and round breasts? I guess it matters only if YOU are the one playing FFX because Yuna dresses in a slutty way (seriously, go buy a porn magazine if that's what you're looking for)
When I play a RPG I'm looking for an immersive storyline, a deep plot, and a full hand of interesting characters, I don't give a damn if one of the female characters is showing a pair of long and nice legs (even though it pleases me to look at it).
I'm way more worried about the money Square made selling games like FF8 or CC, cuz it lacks everything I look for in a RPG, and it means that things are going in the wrong direction.
Just like to add my thoughts on the matter.
A person's circumstacnes do indeed influence their choice of clothing. However, for someone going into combat, skinpy and revealing attire is simply a poor choice. When you're living rough, crashing through the wilderness and getting into scrapes with nasty monsters, sturdy clothng would go a long way toward reducing minor but influential injuries. If you're wearing a bikini top and get whacked on the ribs or elbow, you're going to get bruised, and possibly bleeding. A more substantial shirt or jacket - like Squall's, for instance - would make a huge difference. Speaking of Squall, consider how badly he'd have suffered from Seifer's Fire Cross if he'd been wearing speedos instead of his stronger clothing.
Then, of course, there are particular styles of fighting which require a certain finesse. Tifa, for instance, is a martial artist, and thus needs clothing allowing a certain freedom of movement. Weight is also an issue. So, she's got clothing that's minimal but supportive - braces, after all, aren't generally regarded as aesthetically pleasing, but they are solid and reliable. She also has armoured boots, gloves, and elbow pads protecting those high-risk areas. Yuffie, too, has little clothing, but makes up for it with armour on her left leg and that white sheath over her left arm.
So it is possible to dress in a way that is both skimpy and functional. However, there should always be a suitable reason for it, in my opinion. A swordsman or woman won't last long wearing boxers and a t-shirt, but an agile thief or acrobat isn't going to survive wearing full-body coverings of leather plates.
But then... it seems we're forgetting one of the most important details here:
You can look good wearing lots of clothing. There's no need to show lots of skin in order to be attractive; in my opinion substantial but well-designed clothing is more appeaing than minimal rags.
I'd like to remind everyone that FFX-2 uses a Costume Change system. There the characters' clothes change according to the class they're using. Knights wear heavy armor and use big swords. They're on proper combat gear, so you don't have to worry about that, Big D. :) And really, I think every class in FFX-2 has plenty of clothes and none of them - unless there's a Dancer class - are too revealing. Have you seen Yuna as a White Mage? http://seph99files.homestead.com/files/wmyuna.jpg
If this looks slutty to some of you, I think you'll regard girls as sluts way too easily.
No, the most slutty ones are thief and lady luck. Thief especially, I don't understand. Why do you have to be naked in order to steal? Oh well... whatever. Atleasy you guys have to agree that Rikku's new hairstyle is slutty. Christina Aguilera, anyone?
To distract people while you're robbing them :pQuote:
Thief especially, I don't understand. Why do you have to be naked in order to steal? Oh well... whatever
lol, okay got me there... hehe, doubt that's Rikku's reason though. "Tee-hee, ooh I'm so happy. Happy happy joy joy. I think I'll strip down to my buff to distract people I try to steal from."
Hey... Doesn't make it a BAD game does it? Yay for sexy bottoms I say, even if they're not strictly necessary. ...
Big D
yes of course, there's some 'neck to feet clothing' that can be very beautiful. Quistis comes to mind. But that doesn't mean we can't appreciate SOME parts of the human body WITHOUT clothing. (the OTHER parts we save for doujinshis and our...euh...private thoughts) Tastes differ of course, but wouldn't you agree that 'sparsely dressed attractive' doesn't deserve to be spat on, nor does 'not-directly sexy attractive' need to be ignored? Yes, we all appreciate clothing, but we ALSO appreciate the body on it's own (up to a limit. I don't wanna make FF 18+ anymore then you do. What... leave SOMETHING to my fantasy) and there is nothing wrong with Squaresoft appealing to that.
Your other ussue: Yes, of course the FF people could have pickes a LOT better clothing for an assassination mission. But the FF-series have always allowed 'realism' to take a back seat now and then. If the sexy outfit is the impractical one. Well, it's still 'fantasy' ain't it? And it doesnt hurt my suspension of disbelief.
i90east (eventhough you've discussed it with the Abonimatrix. Because of lack of people disagreein, you get my attention as well)
Technology played a big role. If you ask me, a 3D version of Terra would look as 'slutty' as any recent FF-character. And when it comes to content, as I said, it's he OLD Final fantasies that have you dance with strippers, and has women falling for Cyan like leaves (remmeber when you get in the city)Quote:
In older FF games sluttiness is very modest and is only noticable with focused attention.
Well I can understand you don't receive any stimulation on that level by fictional characters. Tastes differ. But why should it BOTHER you?Quote:
FFX-2 puts it in your face, forcing you to take notice. If I want to get turned on, I'll utilize different forms of media of which contain REAL PEOPLE.
Also, I hope you're not showing contempt for those of us who DO like to see 'carnal' beauty in fictional characters, and even get turned on by them. After all, there's no real pride in knowing that an actual person had to do something unpleasant to get your 'material' compared to knowing an actual person did something PLEASANT for him.
There's a LOT of things in people's hearts. Lust is one fo them. Why should we pretend the FF characters have no sex drive (once again, keeping in mind the audience for limits to how far we go) And why should we pretend WE have no sex drive? YES, we play for the story, gameplay, music and characters. I wouldn't advise FF to ANYONE as an erotic pasttime, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed to make an appeal to our sex drive AT ALL.Quote:
Many people play FF games for the story, the gameplay, the music, and the heart filled characters... that's right, heart filled characters, not lust filled characters. There is a big difference.
Fact still remains that Square stripped down Rikku and gave Yuna the sexy tight-leather look in order to use it as marketing, making it more yum yum...
And that is bad? Yum yum is good!
(bad plot is bad. But a bad plot is not related to presence or absence of yum yum)