The new Square. Against or For?

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Originally posted by SomethingBig
After FFX, I lost nearly all faith in Square. You would not believe the smile I had on my face when I opened it for Christmas. You would also not believe the frown I had on my face after 25-40 hours into the game. However, after popping Kingdom Hearts into the PS2, I regained all faith in Square, once more.

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Hey, about the same for me, except I didn't get FFX for Christmas. I hope that Square learned something from their mistakes in FFX and do those things better in FFX-2, and that they make KH2 similar to KH.

The return of the job system looks pretty promising. But, seeing as how FFX also looked promising, I'm sure as heck renting FFX-2, first.

I can't say I see Square as letting me down - sure, I may not play FFXI, but it is within Square's liberty to do that what it did. Other than that, I can't understand what's all the fuzz about.

Companies make good games, and they make games that suck. I'm not going to judge games based on screenshots or whatever other hype I'm presented, but rather I judge by playing them.

Square is going in a different direction, and of course there will be naysayers no matter what direction they go, so I don't think it matters too much.

I'm not a big fan of either The Bouncer or FF10, but games like FF Tactics Advance were awesome and all were recent releases by Square. I guess my point is that I'm neither against nor for, and that I judge games by themselves rather than by company. *shrug*

EDIT: typos.

>>> The latest FF game I played was FF9, and I liked it.
FF11 looks like a great game but Online games are a problem, what I can say, there are lucky people that can pay for that, good for them..
The only game that disappointed me was FF8, I never played FF10.

I really really feel that after FFIX, everything Square did is getting out of hand.

NES had FFI, FF2j, FF3j. They were sort of the 'starting points' for FF series. They introduced job classing, basic RPing, etc.

SNES took FF a step ahead. FF4 was an example of taking storyline RPing into another step. FF5 took job classing further and introduced more classes. FF6 went into mixing, blending and new abilities and I THINK it is the first FF that came up with combining of stat-ful items (relics). If not, it should be before FFVI and still in the SNES or NES category.

Chrono Trigger came (around FF6's time). It was one of the best games Squaresoft (and Enix) produced. Double Teching and triple teching (teamwork) is introduced.
There may be more, but these are the ones I've played and known.

PSX drove FF series into technology. FFVII introduced Materia system (I could vaguely remember it tho). It took 'rivalry' from FF4 one step further. FFVIII featured different weapons from the other FFs. FF8 has nanchakus, whips, katars and of course, gunblades. The previous FFs do not have such selection of weapons. Junctioning is a creative creation but IMO, it sorta frustrated me.

FFIX was an exception. FF9 was created to bring gamers back to the original FFs, where magic is highly utilized, where there were black mages and white mages. FF9 introduced weapon learning system (it bothers me sometimes).

Chorno Cross was a nice squeal to CT. It indroduced that 'insert magic here' thingy which I wasn't really found of. What I liked was the summoning system.

FFtactics brought Job System into another step
Xenogears is a great game no pun needed.

Of course, the I tihnk Squaresoft noticed the degrading of appreciation of Classic FF so they made FFIX and FFA and FFC.

Then PS2 came...and you know the rest. Squaresoft, IMHO, is not an online gaming company. It's not a movie making company. They made money in FF: The Spirits within is because they are selling the name. If they were given the budget to make a huge 72 hour movie, they might succeed but 2 hours? No way!

I am currently waiting for FFXII, and pray that it would be good.

All I can say is: ZeZipster, I could not agree with you any more.

Until tomorrow, when we get FFXII info, the only Square game appealing to me at all is Sword of Mana. And that's hardly even Square.

FFXI is an MMORPG.. wake up Square! Never, ever do that again.

VII-2... is a movie. It'd better lead to a vidoe game, or maybe be like, a series of movies, because I fear that one hour will be a thrown together "comes back!" story line and a half-hour fight scene between Cloud and Sephiroth, followed by the revival of Aeris.

FFX-2, out of all of those, annoys me the most. No one cares how the FF series is moving, it seems. They're busy mastubating. I hate FFX-2 with all my heart, not only because it's perverted, but because it replaces the wonderous FF themes with .. ugh.. pop... And turns the power of having a great play marathon into.. ugh.. missions.

It's sickening.
Give us FFVI-2!!

EDIT: Crystal Chronicals, too.

I haven't enjoyed a Square product since Xenogears in 1998. However, I still commend Square for making quality games, even if they haven't enchanted me in a long while.

I'm currently playing FFX-2, and it's more fun than sin. It totally blew away my prejudices so far.

I just hope FFVII-2 wouldn't be such a name-selling-product like FF:SW...

SW make money because IT IS MADE BY SQUARESOFT
SW make money because IT IS A FINAL FANTASY

Name selling =\

All I'm waiting for is a game that grabs at my emotions like ffvi did. It was the only game that ever took my breath away from the absolute pleasure of playing a game. I don't think ff as been the same since vi, I really don't. Not that I haven't enjoyed the games, but none of the others stay with me the same.

In any case, I like what squarenix's doing. They're not afraid to try out some new things, and that can only lead to a breakthrough, and dammit I want to say more but it's 2.30 and Family Guy's comin on.

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Originally posted by chionos
All I'm waiting for is a game that grabs at my emotions like ffvi did. It was the only game that ever took my breath away from the absolute pleasure of playing a game. I don't think ff as been the same since vi, I really don't. Not that I haven't enjoyed the games, but none of the others stay with me the same.

In any case, I like what squarenix's doing. They're not afraid to try out some new things, and that can only lead to a breakthrough, and dammit I want to say more but it's 2.30 and Family Guy's comin on.

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That's one end of the stick... Try looking at the other, they could fall flat on their face and get mocked for years to come. I'm not going to say any thing more, because with the upcoming FF12, I really can't apply any statement to Square with out applying it to FF12, too. So I'll wait untill I have more information and time to gather my thoughts.

well I have always had my dislikes about the FF series and direction it is going in...but if this leads to a another FF game that gets me excited like FFVI and FFVII did then so be it...but I think square is great in the graphical department,but there storys have lacking....I HATE the new overworld idea though,it has little to no effort to really show off the way spira really is...I still say Xenogears has one of the deepest,and most well writen storylines of all time,I just wish Xenosaga was written just as well...too bad it wasnt

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Originally posted by NAILBAT
I still say Xenogears has one of the deepest,and most well writen storylines of all time,I just wish Xenosaga was written just as well...too bad it wasnt

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I still think Xenosaga better than Final Fantasy X.

And 2,000 leagues over the FFX-2 sea.

It makes me smile when people talk about "new school square". I look back on the days when I used to get upset about "new school square" only back then I was talking about FF7&8. It makes me laugh relfecting on myself and my own anger. Even when I was "mad" at Square for "selling out" *chuckle* I was still impressed by their games. Threads of Fate, Brave Fencer Musashi, Xenogears, etc. As far as Squenix, their first game was FF Origins. RAWX!!!!

Actually, Enix's Dragon Warrior was released before Square's Final Fantasy, and long before Final Fantasy Origins, so their first game was not Final Fantasy Origins. In fact, Final Fantasy wasn't even Square's first game; at the time, they actually feared it was to be their last.