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OK, but what about sister and the eight-year-old girl? By this logic, you could say that because incest is usually forbidden by religious tenets - just like homosexuality - that any goverernment laws forbidding incest should be thrown out?
And what does fear have to do with this?
Is anything new being said in this thread, or is it just a rehash of the old one?
The other one was about gay marriages, this would be about Bush considering an admendment to ban gay marriages
Yeah I know, but all I'm seeing are the same arguments.
Anyway, if Bush bans it, he'll have a lot of protests on his hands. Maybe the country isnt ready for gay marriages yet. Progress takes a lot of times. How long did the African American population have to wait before they had their rights, even after the Emancipation Proclimation set them free?
This doesn't have anything to do with the topic (I don't really have much of an opinion on the topic), but Abominatrix, here's a quick timeline:
1607-first slaves transported to America
1865-13th Amendment (freed slaves)
1865-14th Amendment (gave black males citizenship)
1866-15th Amendment (gave black males right to vote)
Now technically I guess that's 259 years?
I knew it was something like that.
So, it took almost 300 years for blacks to gain their equal rights. Which they fully and completly deserve. Hopefully, one day, homosexuals will gain the same. Their fight seems to be going a bit faster (at least, since homosexuality became more 'accepted' by the mainstream), and while Bush has no right to do this, he may just win. It'll be a long long fight.
DocFrance makes a good point. If gays get equal rights, so should chairs.
Because chairs really deserve the same rights as thinking, feeling human beings.
Well okay then incestous 8-year-old deserve the same rights.
No eight year old has the right to marry. I dont see why allowing one law equates people to go "Oh, so that means people should be allow to do this, this and this!" hell, since we're giving women and blacks equal rights, my dog should have equal rights too!
I think dogs ARE equal to humans, but that's another debate altogether.
Well, why shouldn't a man be able to marry his sister? It's basically the same argument. In fact, I could even call anyone who thinks otherwise a narrow-minded bigot for attempting to halt the march of progress in this country based on Freedom - I've seen people do the same to those who oppose gay marriages. So, I'm asking you - if a man can marry another man, who is to say that a man can't marry his sister?
Oh, and Bush has every right in the world to propose that amendment. He is the president, and proposing amendments is usally something presidents are allowed to do.
So if Bush proposed an amendment to send all the nations Irish-American population to internment camps to make them grow potatoes, he'd be well within his rights as the president, right?
I havent attempted to halt the 'march of progress' of anyone. I dont care who marries who. It isnt my business if a man marries his sister. And when it becomes such a problem that many people are in love with their kin and wish to marry them, then it will become a constitutional issue. As yet, that situation doesnt exist, now does it?
No. It makes him just as bad as a racist.Quote:
Originally posted by Agent Proto
Just because he disapproves of gay marriages makes him a racist?
Because that's still discrimination, and discrimination has no target.
There's ethical reasons involved...but ethical, schmetical...it doesn't bother me if one marries within their own family.Quote:
Originally posted by DocFrance
Well, why shouldn't a man be able to marry his sister? It's basically the same argument. In fact, I could even call anyone who thinks otherwise a narrow-minded bigot for attempting to halt the march of progress in this country based on Freedom - I've seen people do the same to those who oppose gay marriages. So, I'm asking you - if a man can marry another man, who is to say that a man can't marry his sister?
Oh, and Bush has every right in the world to propose that amendment. He is the president, and proposing amendments is usally something presidents are allowed to do.
Biologically, it's a serious problem. Many people don't realize that the rate of genetic problems increases over 10 fold if one marries(and eventually) and has a baby. So that's why same family marriages are problems...but if some couple wishes to do that, I have no choice but to step away.