Israelis blow up Elderly quadriplegic leaving Mosque

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Originally posted by Grandmaster LH
First and last time I've been called out for being too idealistic.

Nobody said it'll be easy but if you want out of something bad enough you can get out. And it seems like a good portion of the fighting comes from people trying to stay rather than leave.

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Yeah, I'm the idealistic one here, not optimist though: I think great things are possible if people try. I doubt they will try though.

About getting out, well, probably the Israel side is more rich, so people with a decent adquisitive level could try, but in the side of Palestine more people live under poverty, and they have enough trouble staying alive for considering the idea of moving.

Plus, take into account it's also the place they were born in, so getting exiled is not something many wish, even if things go wrong. Hell, if I lived there I'd leave, but well...it's not that easy, getting nationality papers is not something you can do from one day to another.

Q: How do you recognise a innocent bystander in the Israel-Palestine conflict?

A: She's on telly.


I'm sure that if you sat down and talked to these people you couldn't make a difference between them and the other side, twatwits the lot of em.

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Originally posted by gokufusionss1
i'd wish they'd blow up gerry adams

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Surely Ian Paisley as well? :)

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Surely Ian Paisley as well?

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no, i'm not going to bother expaining why.

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Originally posted by gokufusionss1
no, i'm not going to bother expaining why.

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Oh. Well, if you don't care enough to explain your point of view, I'll just assume you're a unionist. But hey, you've got "Goku" in your name, chances are most of what you say is well worth ignoring anyways. ;)

Moving on. Well, they more or less blew up the Palestian [major religious figure]. Like the Pope, or something. WHEN WILL EVERYONE STOP BULLING THE POOR ISRAELIS???? [ /sarcasm]

Oh, I have nothing more to add than what has already been said. ;)

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Originally posted by Dr Unne
This is no different than the last 30 years or so. --Garland

^3000

I don't understand at all what they're even fighting over in Israel. Terrible things happen when you mix ignorance, religion, government and guns.

Honestly I just can't conceive of living in a place like that. The closest I can imagine in the US is a stereotypical KKK member or something; ignorance + irrational hate + a willingness to do violence + a smattering of pseudo-morality and religion. Trying to imagine an entire country full of people like that fighting another entire country of people like that hurts my brain.

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This is it in a nutshell:

Arabs: Stop stealing our land or we will punch you
Jews: We're claiming your land because you're anti-semetic

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I don't understand at all what they're even fighting over in Israel.

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The land, and whose right it is to live on it. Religion plays little role, and racism\ignorance\ have no role what-so-ever.

Yassin was an arch-terrorist, a leader of the Hamas organization. He had it coming for a looong time now...

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This is it in a nutshell:

Arabs: Stop stealing our land or we will punch you
Jews: We're claiming your land because you're anti-semetic

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More like:

Jews : We want to live in Israel.
Arabs : We don't want you to live here.

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Yassin was an arch-terrorist, a leader of the Hamas organization. He had it coming for a looong time now...

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Yes, sure, but you kind of...have to look at the consequences of your actions. Is revenge against this man worth the violence and opression that is bound to arise now? And now Sharon talks about Arafat...

And then he says he wants peace, but he's just as bad as Yassin. Or maybe worse, at least Yassin didn't claim he wanted peace when he did all those attacks.

I am going to throw a party once Sharon gets blown up, he also deserves it since he's an arch-terrorist

( :eep: )

Prepare to defend that point of view.

This is a most touchy subject, especially to those directly involved or living in the area. I think sometimes it gets very hard to be objective about it. Americans suffer the same problem when looking back at 9/11. Sometimes, we're not always the good guys or the bad guys, but just people who quarrel and make stupid decisions. In the end, we will have to learn to live together, or else, we're all going to die together.

Take care all.

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Originally posted by Shadow Nexus
Yes, sure, but you kind of...have to look at the consequences of your actions. Is revenge against this man worth the violence and opression that is bound to arise now? And now Sharon talks about Arafat...

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I'm pretty sure this violence was bound to happen, either way. It's like saying that the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was the sole cause of WWI.

If you ask me, we oughta just sit back and watch these two countries that can't see past their own differences duke it out. Sure, we'll provide humanitarian aid when need be, and put the foot down when they step out of bounds. But for the most part it'll be like locking two violent, hyperactive children in the same room.

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Originally posted by DocFrance
I'm pretty sure this violence was bound to happen, either way. It's like saying that the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was the sole cause of WWI.

If you ask me, we oughta just sit back and watch these two countries that can't see past their own differences duke it out. Sure, we'll provide humanitarian aid when need be, and put the foot down when they step out of bounds. But for the most part it'll be like locking two violent, hyperactive children in the same room.

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If we're going to act as the audience and pit them in a fair fight, we sort of owe the palestinians a couple of hundred billion dollars

Who said anything about a fair fight? I'm suggesting we just leave them as be. Let whatever deity they believe in sort them out.

Um...sometimes I wonder if the correct thing would be to just let them sort it out themselves, but it seems like none of the sides wants to end the bloodshed.


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Hey!!! I HAVE AN IDEA!!! LET'S HAVE A SISSY GIRL SING A SONG AND EVERYONE WILL WANT PEACE!!!


What? It worked on Final Fantasy X-2, IT HAS TO WORK HERE!!!


Let's have a petition online to have Celine Dion sing a corny love song in Betlem.

That's a great idea, Celine Dione and the Peace in Middle-east with one strike! They'll never know what hit us.