Most Powerful combat system - junction etc

Materia is without a doubt the most powerful system due to the incredible combinations of actions and attacks that can be achieved by linking the right materia and how open to creativity devising such tactics is.


Fire + Quadra Magic
Fire + MP Turbo
Fire + MP Absorb
Fire + HP Absorb
Fire + Added Cut
Fire + Steal As Well
Fire + Magic Counter
W-Magic
Magic Plus

With this combination, Fire (or any offensive spell, really) will be cast upon random targets four times, pausing between blasts while the spellcaster rushes in and steals their possessions. Every blast returns some HP and MP to the caster, and if any enemies survive the magic, they'll be nailed by four regular attacks thanks to Added Cut. Then W-Magic makes it happen all over again. MP Turbo and Magic Plus enhance the strength of the magic, which is probably superfluous, but Magic Counter sets off the combo when the character is struck, meaning that nobody even has to act for it to work.

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Of course everyone knows about Final Attack + Phoenix, which brings the party to as close to immortality as they'll ever need to be.

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Deathblow + Added Cut: even if the deathblow doesn't hit, the added cut certainly will, removing all risk from taking a shot at double damage, which itself becomes triple-damage.

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Cover
HP Plus (or Final Attack + Revive)
Magic Counter + Comet
Counter + Deathblow
Counter Attack (as many as possible)

When the character equipped like this is struck--which he invariably will be, thanks to Cover--the retaliatory chain is set off with a deathblow, Comet, and as many regular attacks as you have Counter Attack materia. HP Plus and Final Attack + Revive keep the character alive, since it's necessary to have him take a beating to activate the chain. Again, this is all set up with counter-type materia, meaning no one needs to take a turn to make this mess.

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Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryûkishi

Materia is without a doubt the most powerful system due to the incredible combinations of actions and attacks that can be achieved by linking the right materia and how open to creativity devising such tactics is.


Fire + Quadra Magic
Fire + MP Turbo
Fire + MP Absorb
Fire + HP Absorb
Fire + Added Cut
Fire + Steal As Well
Fire + Magic Counter
W-Magic
Magic Plus

With this combination, Fire (or any offensive spell, really) will be cast upon random targets four times, pausing between blasts while the spellcaster rushes in and steals their possessions. Every blast returns some HP and MP to the caster, and if any enemies survive the magic, they'll be nailed by four regular attacks thanks to Added Cut. Then W-Magic makes it happen all over again. MP Turbo and Magic Plus enhance the strength of the magic, which is probably superfluous, but Magic Counter sets off the combo when the character is struck, meaning that nobody even has to act for it to work.

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That's so beautiful I want to cry.

Only Kishi would come up with such sheer genius.

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Originally Posted by Mo-Nercy³

And you can't link KotR with Quadra Magic. 250 times 4 is 1000, which is more MP than you can get.

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actually you CAN get over 1000 mp if you have the HP<=>MP Materia.

But you still can't use Quadra Magic and KotR together.

I agree that Materia is probably the most versatile magic system. I didn't really take the time to master, it though (my most impressive combo was Cure<->All Hahaha!). But I have seen some pretty awesome materia combinations.

I really liked Junction as well, and it was pretty fun to use.

My favorite probably goes to either FFX's sphere grid or FFX-2's Dressphere. Though probably not the most 'powerful' I found them very fun to use and gaining new abilities didn't seem like a chore.

while materia did certainly become a very addaptive medium, i still dont feel it's teh best if anything because of the time and effort needed to train all your materia up to level three etc, with the junction and aeons you simply choose specific talents to learn and get ultra powerful magic instantly. that said the dressphere system could decimate the materia system easily.

not only do you take into account the inhernt abilites of the many dresspheres, but the truck loads of differnt garment grids which have varying kick arse bonus. decreasing any magical attacks, while absorbing magical attacks, reflecting them while building your stragth, giving you teh abilities of a black mage while being in the powerfully immune stance of a darknight...and if anytthing gives you trouble, catnip with trigger happy

hey, I might borrow FF8 from a friend and copy it soon, so what's the combat system in there? someone told me it was "kind of" like Legend of Dragoon combat system.

to have commands other than attack you junction a GF/summon to yourself. this allows you to use items, summons etc as well as get boosts like streagth 30. also you can attach magics to your stats, so cureaga will boost your HP into the thoughsands, aura will increase your streatgh allowing yout to tailor your team to whatever you need

"Tailored to whatever you need" really means "everyone is exactly the same."

I didn't realize that effects could be stacked like that. That's brilliant.

I'm confused.

maybe yours were the same doc because you couldnt work it?

it's simple. all your character stats. HP, attack, def, M def, magic, luck, magic absorb, status attack, status defence etc. you can attach magics to each of these which useually increase or decrease them as well as your offensive and defensive abilitys.

whats more your aeon can learn abilitys, growing in power, abilitys you can use that enhance you further or refine items into magics, cures, other items etc

uh huh. I'm just gonna wait until i play it for myself.

FFVI has Vanish+Doom. That ain't too shabby...