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I hope nothing happens to the fathers. Dried purple paint isn't going to do any damage, so they don't deserve much in the way of punishment. It could be said that they've done Blair a favour.
I smiled when I saw the story. I doubt it would have been so higly publicised if it wasn't for all the paranoia over terrorist threats (a lot of it perpetuated by Blair).
I was listening to the Yankees- Angels baseball game last night and heard that two fans jumped onto the field before being tackled and escorted off. The two commentators waxed about how before 9/11, fans jumping on the field wasn't such a big deal, the fans would be helped off, but not so violently. Post 9/11, it's handled as a terrorist act, with police and security flying onto the field to catch them. Shows how very paranoid the world, America especially, has gotten indeed.
Take care all.
the news said the farthers wouldnt face jail time.....what i laughed at was how slowly all the politicians acted....no one even looked at blair and then everyone waddled outside as if nothing happend....that would have poisend everyone outside as well.
i really dont trust america anymore....not that i ever did....the thing is that those who tortured the iraque's in prison WERE normal americans, they ones you pass in the street. unfortunatly, for a country that carries guns on it's streets, this IS representive of America, and it's shameful
YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
In fact, did you know torture is considered a national sport in USA? They tie people to poles in the middle of the street and torture them, and people who like it, throw some coins. Running over people with cars is also considered something OK to do when you are in a hurry.
Then, why don't american tourists do that in other countries then? Well...THEY ARE EVIL CYBORG CLONES. And when you visit USA? Well, it's an EVIL ILLUSIONARY USA. It's all a big conspiracy.
Shadow Nexus knows our secret! He must be eliminated! Where's my big American SUV I can run him down with.
(You make me smile :) )
I saw this as sort of a prank to garner attention, I'll admit, but it did focus attention on both the activist group and upon security gaps. However, everyone knows a certain level of mass hatred comes with the occupation. I suppose our leaders are prepared to accept the fact that many many many people want them dead.
EDIT: Just to fully don the role of the headstrong, foolsih, bitchy American, I would like to point out that the INDIVIDUALS who carried out the acts in the Iraqi prison are NOT your "typical" Americans. Stop classifying me, and all other good Americans in the same category as the prison guards.
Don't look at me, I'm a conscious objector.
Take care all.
Oh, I'm used to being labelled. In fact, just yesterday, while walking around downtown Colorado Springs in uniform, someone called me a baby-killer! I feel so frustrated... but at the same time... proud?
you might be onto something there Shadow Nexus considering there are more killings in the texan state Bush used to govern in one month than there is in the whole of great briton for a year.....then again the USA shouts the right to carry firearms and shoot each other....they have the KKK, they have one of the most useless and censored mdeias in the world, they are if i remeber correctly the biggest polluter and consumer of fuel due to their obssesstion with SUV's and other large vehicles etc. if your gonna be sarcastic....do it with a bit more flare :)
well can you blame them for wanting bush and blair dead....they got cought with pie on their face tortureing innocents and they didnt say sorry nor have the culprits been punished.
i would like to think those prison gaurds were the exception.....but they werent, america does this every time they get into a war, these people who did do it were everyday americans, funny how the USA denys that fact when they arent heros, but if they are vice versa. the family and freinds of the first female officer to be cought in the photographs said how you couldnt get a more normal and decent person......yeah, theose pictures show how decent she was, normal people are capable of terrible things, worse than the baddest killers because they are not FIT to do those jobs.
proud of being labled a baby killer? in my mind those who knew, or witnessed these atrocities are just as guilty as the people who commited them...yes that includes any british warriors, but im not condeming the military only for this...im condemning the whole state of america. you guys produced these people, you have to deal with them...and that isnt happening.
EDIT:Shadow....is he in charge of the USA, one of teh most powerful and largest boys in the world.....yes., did he go to war..yes, thus he represents america not only in front of teh other countries and politics but to other people. otherwise what would be the point of a president. i havent seen him pulled out of power for being a tyrant?
Because ive been in a real sword fight to teh death a number of times. the music wasnt to represent a dance, it was to represent battle and it did ti well, if youd been in that situation you would have felt how that particular song matched teh emotions of your mind in those situations not to mention teh moviing visuals....do you think i teach sword fighting for a joke..to run around with bendy foam toys?
No, I do not like USA society, and I am not defending it, but I believe you are really exagerated. Yes, the firearm thing is a disaster, the criminality rates are high too, the media sucks, they have the KKK (And we had the Inquisition, duh) and so on, but this does not mean the average american is a killer. And it's not like all americans are stupid. Of course, USA is full of idiots, but so is UK, Italy, France, Spain and Buthan. Of course, the idiocy in USA is more noticable because they are the most powerful country in the world, but no, I do not believe the average american can be reflected as a torturer. How about stoping the labeling? How would you feel if- basing myself on the fact UK has a powerful monarchy- I started saying people in UK are terribly old fashioned tea-sucking retards? And if you said people in Spain are bloodthirsty barbarians because bull practicing is practiced here, I would tell you to burn in a fire, because, most of Spain is against bull fighting, and most of USA is against tortures too.Quote:
you might be onto something there Shadow Nexus considering there are more killings in the texan state Bush used to govern in one month than there is in the whole of great briton for a year.....then again the USA shouts the right to carry firearms and shoot each other....they have the KKK, they have one of the most useless and censored mdeias in the world, they are if i remeber correctly the biggest polluter and consumer of fuel due to their obssesstion with SUV's and other large vehicles etc. if your gonna be sarcastic....do it with a bit more flare
USA does it all the time that it gets into war. Yes. And every other country. Or do you believe there is any war where there has not been torture, from both sides?Quote:
i would like to think those prison gaurds were the exception.....but they werent, america does this every time they get into a war
The torture was not fair, it was an atrocity, and yes, those soldiers may have been rised in american society, and american society may have many problems, but saying those are the average americans is like saying Robespierre was the average frenchman.
For God's sake, I'm defending USA! O_o
"For God's sake, I'm defending USA! O_o"
Wow, I am stunned. It's okay. There are five step programs that will get you right back to your America-bashing comfort zone.
Indeed, it is very harsh to condemn an entire nation of people for the actions of a few, even if the society might be to blame.
Take care all.
Yes, I am quite proud that those people could call me a baby-killer in plain daylight without fear of punishment. It means that my comrades-in-arms and I - as well as those who served before us - have done or are doing our jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
What have you done with the real Shadow Nexus? You're his evil twin, aren't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus
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What have you done with the real Shadow Nexus? You're his evil twin, aren't you?
Naaaaaah, I was just being ironic :p In fact, I AM SURE people in USA walk in the streets killing each other. It shows in all the movies involving Quentin Tarantino, and therefore it must be true!!!Quote:
Wow, I am stunned. It's okay. There are five step programs that will get you right back to your America-bashing comfort zone.
*enters a random shop and shoots at the owner*
There, the diaries will have something to talk about.
*carries a katana with him in the plane, goes to Tokyo and kills 80 people in a restaurant*
:D
*dances with Uma Thruman*
Ladies and gentlemen, this is EoFF's first documented case of double-sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Nexus
Is that even possible?
Take care all.
Yes, I am starting to scare myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocFrance