"I dunno, cows eat grass yet they don't die from it "
Cows die from ME
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"I dunno, cows eat grass yet they don't die from it "
Cows die from ME
I feel sad when I eat meat, but like you said, I realllllly like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evelia
I'd be a vegetarian, but if I stopped eating meat then I'd lose too much weight.
I'm slowly trying to phase it out, I gave up pork recently, I don't eat that any more.
Next I think will be beef, though it might be best to do that last since I'll need to find iron substitutes first, and there's nothing much special you get from chicken and other white meats.
I eat a lot of vegetables and vegetarian dishes though, lots of pasta, chinese stir fries and the like. I guess all I need is time, and substitutes for all the nutrients that are easily gained through meat.
EDIT : Oh, and while it can be said that because plants get all their energy from the sun, and you take that directly through eating plants and plant derivatives, it doesn't mean we can digest all of the plants and their energy stores, so the common argument that you get more energy from plants than meat isn't always true.
A cow is a terrible thing to waste... by letting it eat grass and get fat. You have to understand that cows like to be eaten. It's cow nature.
The way I see it, a small minority of people that refuse to eat meat will have absolutely no effect on the number of animals slaughtered for food each year. So, why not just join the majority and GET THAT STEAK DOWN YOUR THROAT, DAMMIT!
Yeah, they love it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamaneko
I don't get those vegetarians who aren't eating red meat, but are eating birds and fish, while they say it's "wrong" to eat animals. Fishes and birds have feelings too. >:O I like to hurt them, though.
Yay me too! I wuv my PG :love:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moo Moo the Ner Cow
1) There is a difference between eating animals raised for the purpose of being slaughtered, humane or not, and eating humans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
2) I am very surprised your parents let you become a vegetarian at such a young age. I'm a vegan, but I certainly would not continue to be so if I were pregnant, and although I'd go back to veganism after giving birth I would not let my child be a vegetarian/vegan until they had finished growing.
3) I wouldn't compare omnivores to nazis, either.
cows and many other farm animals are also unknowingly turned into cannibals when farmers feed them muck created from other dead cows etc....thus why britain had such an epedimic recently.
Lindz, there isnt ANYTHING you can get from fish and meat that isnt MORE abundant in other sources like cereals etc if your really interested there are many good books on nutrition, vegetarian diets etc on amazon and the like. that said ive eaten potatoes all my life, chips, roaties, mash.......baked beans and mushy peas. vegetairen sauges and sausage roles by Linda mckarny, bean burgers are lovly and while i know i dont eat enough fruit im healthy and mighty and very big (not fat...big/broad). the only Vege's i know who loose to much waight isnt because they dont eat meat...it's because their diet was wrong anyway...only eating pizza for example and they wouldnt eat chips and cereals etc.
TO EAT HEALTHY AS A VEGE just cut meat out. chips are cooked in vegetable oil and taste better, as is roastys etc. vegetable gravy is also nicer.......vege's actually eat more and have more avilable than meateaters.
Jayren, dont be an asshole. Vege's and vegans arent in a minority, weather for religous or morality we are everywhere now and growing in the thousands each day. we dont eat meat because we dont like killing for no reason....you should be glad, it means im the type of man who stops someone killing you.....
Yamaneko...your also being stupid, if you canrt act sensibly or respect others ways....sod off because it makes you pathetic.
Mikstso.....if someone eats animals or birds or fish they arent vege and thats a plain fact, being vege means you dont eat animals, birds and fish .....but on one said anything about eating a stupid ignorant man.
Call.....tell me the differance between eating humans which are animals and eating animals....there isnt, the stars and gods never set anything in stone, in fact we are all decended from cannibles concidering it was easier to club a fellow human than forrige in teh woods for animals. i choose to respect life's rights to live.
my mothers always been vege and was through my birth, it's actually healthyer but my farther was a meat eater and she had me young...she didnt feel strong enough to stop him eating meat and my farther hid it from me what meat was...when i discoverd it was my choice as a sentient life form not to hurt others. im actually stronger and heathyer and bigger than any of the meat eaters i know from school and the rest of my life. meat isnt a nessesity for growth....as i said earlier, if you eat cerals etc your getting more than you get from fish and meat and you get it in a purer form, even from teh sugar coated mush like frosties. By eating meat while pregnant you transfer to the baby many of the dangerous and deadly elements of eating meat such as mad cow desease which was recently proven by british scientists and small dormant cancers etc, not to mention allowing your children to grow ignorant. I only started becoming vegan when i read and learnt about what was happening since i never grew up around any farmers. from an early age i also learned to swordfight which helped me grow and tought me to control and be safe around daggers and danger, many people wouldnt let their children do so, but it's helped me in my life and i would teach my child the same.
Omnivores to nazis. if you just dont understand yet what it means for a life to be brutally murderd just for you to eat it...then no......but for those who do know and dont care, they are happy to watch thousands of innocent helpless pleding creatures be beaten or shot the same way the furr trade loves anal electricution and then they say "well they mean less than Us". the nazis happily rounded up whole familiys and generations, little children crying for their mothers and elderly women unable to walk and when they didnt shoot them they stripped them naked in the cold, chemically showerd them and as they huddled naked and helpless they were murderd. the nazis used their skin and bits to make books and lampshades and coats which are still in museums today.....much as leather is used....thus why omnivores or rather meateaters carry on the nazi and roman tradition for hatred and bloody murder. im trying to save lives and make them better.....they condemn them.
Snowman, discussing the merits of being vegan/vegetarian is one thing, but do not flame other members. This is a warning. If you wanted a totally serious discussion, this was not the forum to do that in. ~ Leeza
I don't eat much at all so therefore to give up meat would make my balanced diet nonexistant (I don't eat breakfast as a rule therefore don't eat cereals to get the iron and stuff plenty of meat and veg do that for me) but then I have eating disorders where I can lose a hell of a lot of weight and be happy at around 9 stone and I could if I wanted to put the weight on again like my doctor made me to get to 11 stone or so but I'm not happy at that weight. And yes by being a guy of 6ft height I know 9 stone is unheathily light. You should see the fun my martial arts mates have with me I'm nicknamed "Ragdoll" cause I fly around the room my centre of gravity defies gravity.
uh...weird thread first of all.
Secondly. I'm getting hungry...
Thirdly. I'm a cow. Or i wish i was....cos then i could be vegetarian.
Then i wouldn't be responsible for the mass killings of poor innocent, pathetic animals...
It's not that hard to find vegetarian girls. Just go to college and start shopping at the organic foods store.
I second this!Quote:
Originally Posted by King Bahamut
Eest is right. Being vegetarian seems to be 'in', or something like that.
[qq]Linda mckarny[/qq]
McCartney...
[qq]TO EAT HEALTHY AS A VEGE just cut meat out.[/qq]
No, you need to be very careful to make sure you're getting the necessary protein, iron, amino acids, and such.
[qq]chips are cooked in vegetable oil and taste better[/qq]
Fried potatoes aren't healthy - though I'll certainly agree that they taste better fried in vegetable oil.
[qq]vege's actually eat more and have more avilable than meateaters.[/qq]
Um... no. Do I even have to explain that one? You're taking the sum total of all food, taking away meat, and saying what remains is more then what you originally had. I suggest you take a math(s) class... after an English one.
[qq]Yamaneko...your also being stupid, if you canrt act sensibly or respect others ways....sod off because it makes you pathetic.[/qq]
Please continue to insult the moderators :)
That said, you don't seem to be very respectful of other people's ways. It's not a one-way street, you know. Most people who dislike vegetarians dislike them because of self-rightous people like you, who feel they're vastly superior for their choice, and take every opportunity to shout it from the rooftops.
[qq]but on one said anything about eating a stupid ignorant man.[/qq]
The people who value animal life more than human life should have that same ethic applied to themselves :)
[qq]i choose to respect life's rights to live.[/qq]
Life has no right to live. Go ask a bear. Kick it a few times too, just for good measure.
[qq]my mothers always been vege and was through my birth, it's actually healthyer but my farther was a meat eater and she had me young...she didnt feel strong enough to stop him eating meat and my farther hid it from me what meat was...[/qq]
How criminally irresponsible of your mother. Childhood is NOT an appropriate time to be vegetarian.
[qq].as i said earlier, if you eat cerals etc your getting more than you get from fish and meat and you get it in a purer form[/qq]
It depends on the nutrient, I suppose. Anyway, believe it or not, we don't just eat raw red meat all the time. Sure, I've got a steak on my plate, but I also have steamed broccoli and a baked potato.
[qq]By eating meat while pregnant you transfer to the baby many of the dangerous and deadly elements of eating meat such as mad cow desease[/qq]
Which is rare. You're more likely to get food poisioning from vegetables and fruit then you are likely to get mad cow disease.
[qq]they are happy to watch thousands of innocent helpless pleding creatures[/qq]
Cows do not PLEAD. They moo. And then they die. Circle of life, my son!
[qq]thus why omnivores or rather meateaters carry on the nazi and roman tradition for hatred and bloody murder. im trying to save lives and make them better.....they condemn them[/qq]
ROMANES EUNT DOMUS
I don't hate chickens or cows. I'm actually rather indifferent towards them. And murder would imply sentience, which I cows lack. They are BRED to be stupid. They are bred to be eaten - it is their entire purpose. You think they'd survive if we just set them all free?