Kerry threw a granade at a rcok and said he got shot. That doesnt sound liek too much of a battle to me. :-/
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Kerry threw a granade at a rcok and said he got shot. That doesnt sound liek too much of a battle to me. :-/
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Kerry threw a granade at a rcok and said he got shot. That doesnt sound liek too much of a battle to me.
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Originally Posted by Escobar
Well maybe he'll release a copy of the X-rays where he has a piece of Viet-Cong sharpnel still lodged in his leg. Either way he saw more action than Bush, thus he has a better understanding of what its like to be a solider on the battlefield. He may have only spent 4 months in Vietnam, but read the book "Acceptable Loss - Kregg P.J. Jorgenson", 4 months for many in Vietnam, was a lifetime.
Anyways they dont give u 3 purple hearts for 1 bullet wound.
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There is no murder on a battlefield.
If u kill an unarmed civilian/soldier willing to surrender, on the battlefield, then u have commited murder. Depending on the ROE even firing on an enemy position, without being fired upon can sometimes be considered murder.
I missed the speech , but I heard from family, friends and now on here, that it was really good. I'm sorry I missed it.
I've been for Kerry since the beginning... at first it was because I hated Bush, and still do, but once Kerry started to get more out into the public and I heard him speak, I really started to want to vote for him, because of what he stands for. Now, I know all politicians say that they will, do this, do that, blah blah blah. Though he seems to more genuinely mean what he says. And besides, how much worse can he be than Bush?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Unne
"I didn't watch it, nor any of the rest of Democratic National Pep-rally, nor will I watch the Republican one. Decisions shouldn't be made based upon knee-jerk reactions to emotional speeches and flowery meaningless drivel set to popular rock-'n'-roll music. Give me a list of his stances on the issues, that's all anyone needs. (Don't actually give me one, that was a rhetorical statement.) As if I could trust such a list anyways, but it'd be better than nothing.
It was some metaphorical babble about being "American", and making America "better", and taking us in the "right" direction, right? Without defining exactly what those things are. And vague promises for things like health care, education, national defense, "working families"; i.e. those things every President promises to care about, and which Bush promised to care about too, but which will be forgotten two months after the election, unless it furthers the cause of the Party.
I just sent away for my voter registration papers a few days ago, but I honestly don't know why. I'm probably going to flip a coin. Our Presidential candidates are celebrities, in the most negative sense of the term, and there is hardly a politician alive who will speak anything near the truth between now and November. I can barely even watch TV any more what with the constant barrage of vapid pseudo-optimistic rhetoric and talking-points various "supporters" spout."
Unne, you may be cynical, but there is truth underlying there. Yet, how can we completely shut politics out of our life if we want to progress anywhere? What needs to be done is for someone, or a group of people, perhaps our generation, people of the late 70's, 80's and 90's to take a stand and actually do what is promised, to truly make America and the world a more wonderful place. I can believe it will happen because I have faith in my fellow human beings. Even if I am alone on that principle, I will always believe and strive for some kind of success and progress in the world. I may not support Kerry, Bush, Democrats or Republicans, but I support democracy and hope that we as a people never lose sight of what it means to be free or at least ponder freedom in such a way.
One day, we all will have the chance to do something in this world, don't let it pass you by or ignore it because of the flaws of the past. Sure, to assume what has happened already will repeat itself is often a wise way of viewing the future, but it is not absolute. There is hope among us, it is in the beating hearts of the world, of a people who want to help each other, to better themselves and better their lives. It is in that spirit that we must all find the strength to still believe in the world. Perhaps the government is flawed or the system itself is. Yet, how does it go in our written history? If a government is corrupt, destroy it and replace it with one that works. Hopefully it won't ever come to that, but we as the next generation of leaders and true members of this world must take it into our own hands to do something, whatever it may be.
Take care all.
I saw a good portion of the speech, though other obligations kept me from seeing its entirety. I've never been a really gung-ho Kerry supporter, but I've known I'd vote for him ever since he clinched the nomination. Last night's speech did instill a little bit more hope in me, though. It really exceeded my expectations. Although I did think the "reporting for duty" bit was a little cheesy.
He earned those medals, he's free to do with them what he wants. My dad tossed his medals in the nearest trashcan when they handed them out. He earned all of them, but he wasnt at all proud of the war or what he did, but he did his duty and earned them regardless, and they were his to throw away. The same with Kerry, and any other vet who wants to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Escobar
Not to mention that the papers are more important than the actual medals, some of which can be purchased, all of which can be re-ordered.
As for the topic at hand, I didnt watch the speech. Maybe I'll download it, I'd like to watch both Kerry and Bush's around the same time.
I haven't actually seen the Kerry speech - I was watching C-Span's stream for such gems as Clinton's and Carter's speech - but I've read how everyone thinks it was great, even the SCLM (so called liberal media).
And, y'know, I'm kinda hopeful. And I'm not even American. :D
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Notice how all the Kerry-bashers in this tread are only semi-literate, and sprouting right-wing talking-points spooned out of Rove's
This is like one big soap opera. :)
I still think it's better than all the people who know nothing about Kerry, but he sure is better than TEH EVAL BOOSH. Yes, right.Quote:
Notice how all the Kerry-bashers in this tread are only semi-literate, and sprouting right-wing talking-points spooned out of Rove's
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Originally Posted by War Angel
I wish there was a "I told you" smiley. :cool:
If you're reffering to the fact I've missed the word 'know', and writing 'it' instead of 'he', I'll have you know I have semi-dyslexic handicaps, and I'm not a native English speaker, to boot. If you're thinking "Well, neither amQuote:
I wish there was a "I told you" smiley.
I!", then good for you. Your grasp of the English language is better than mine. Way to go. Question is... how is any of this relevant?
I think he was refering more to this part of his prior post:
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...and sprouting right-wing talking-points spooned out of Rove's
How was what I said right-point, and who's Rove? I'm getting a bit confused here...Quote:
...and sprouting right-wing talking-points spooned out of Rove's
Actually, I was referring "TEH EVAL BOOSH".
First of all, it's in all-caps, which may be forgiven as a stylistic mean.
The, evil and Bush are all written in an unstandard way - which isn't BAD. What IS bad that it is a fact that "teh" and "eval" lose some phonological information, even more so than "the" (/T@/),and "evil" (/i:vil/ or /i:v@l/). Tsk, tsk.
And the satire misses so bad. It's not "OMG TEH EVAL BOOSH", it is "OMG TEH EVAL SPOON OF SANTA TEH DEMOCRATS", as we heard last from the right-wing and that bastion of sanity, Ann Coulter. :cool:
Plus I wanted a cheap-shot at the right-wing, and you just... Landed there, with your mistakes. Sorry. But there is a war going on.