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i mean in the same way ffX-2 lost its ffX-ness. they can change what they want...but keep the glorious battle systerm the same please.Quote:
Originally Posted by chionos
sorry Necronopticous, but Vagrant story imho is one of the worst games i have ever played. it is a real shame too since the story was god. the greatest tragedy in Rpg history.
Everytime a new FF game comes out it gets bad mouthed by a ton of people, then when it does come out it's a good game (maybe not a classic but a good game) did you ever stop to think that if we actually could judge the games that Squenix make properly then we'd be able to make games of that quality ourselves?
I like how it was put by someone a while ago when they were talking about FFXII. Someone was upset about something like the battle system. I can't quite remember who it was, but I loved the quote, "Shame on them [Square Enix] for doing something new."
It's really all it comes down to. They may be milking the Final Fantasy VII franchise dry, but honestly, it might come out to kick major ass. I'm not a fan of shooters, first or third person, generally, but I'll give it a try. Why, because it's Final Fantasy, and KFCruelty said, they've all been good.
There hasn't been a single Final Fantasy game that isn't good. They're not all great, but they've never made a Final Fantasy game that didn't develope a constant, large fanbase.
Dirge of Cerberus will be the same.
I don't think making it an action game is neccessarily a bad thing. Square Enix spends so much time making RPGs, it's good to see them branch out every once in a while. Hopefully they'll do a good job. Vincent, in my opinion, would be better suited to an action game than to the lead man in an RPG. Maybe this will just be a solid action title with a pretty good story behind it. I mean, Advent Children might tie up enough loose ends to make a long RPG sequel work well...
yeah you guys are right (obviously).
I was just really mad at the time when I wrote the post.
And, uh, I loved X-2...I actually love all the FF games except for Crystal Chronicles because I enjoy the experience of playing RPGs by myself...that, and I didn't have the money to fork out for SP's
Poor FFVII is sure getting raped though...but...it's got Vinnie and he's the man so I'm sure it'll kick ass anyway. *sigh*
I'll probably play it just because it's Final Fantasy. Just as long as it isn't anything like BloodRayne, or at least has more of a storyline, then I think it will be fine.
OMG I H8 SQUENIX IT SHOULD BE AN RPG, BUT THEY'RE MAKING IT RPGAY
Shut up. First people complained about the movie, but it's becoming clear that the movie will be fantastic. Now people are complaining about a game with a very underrated and underused (since he was hidden, obviously) character in a situation perfect for a dark and gloomy story with gameplay that has improved by leaps and bounds over even the last two years (did you watch that KH2 video? you can't say that Vincent doing the same thing wouldn't be sexcellent.).
There's all sorts of potential with this scenario; just sit back and watch for a little while. I always thought Vincent and Cloud were the most similar of all the FF7 characters, so this could be very fitting for a sequel.
EDIT: For the record, imagine introducing the concept of FF7 to someone who had just played FF2, or if you want to be a little more extreme, Super Mario Bros. 3, way back when those games were out. "What? That's crazy talk!" Your reproductive organs would probably have been on the receiving end of a curse, I'll tell you what.
Have a little faith.
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OMG I H8 SQUENIX IT SHOULD BE AN RPG, BUT THEY'RE MAKING IT RPGAY
Well, i'm trying to stay optimistic about DoC. But its so hard. I LOVE FFVII and have been waiting for a sequel. A third person shooter wasn't quite what I expected. I'm sure the story will be conveyed well... square is the best at that. I love the fact that Vincent is the lead in the game. I never personally liked using Vincent in FFVII but I did like him as a character. I like the whole dark look DoC shows right now. Well... Square-Enix... please don't let me down... I love you guys! :love:
Wow, people here have no respect for other peoples opinions. You guys ever stop to think they might like something you don't, or the reverse? C'mon, everyone here cannot be so arrogant. How can you sit there just mocking someones remarks, not even making an arguement, and expect this to be given any thought? You're embarking on a pointless conquest to persuade or defend your opinions in a debate that'll probably never end... I don't think I'm going to bother posting my opinions in this thread, because it's too early and I don't feel like getting flamed.
People are mad bc they think that the actual seuel about seph and cloud and the whole FF7 world is an action RPG. its NOT. This is a spinoff about vincent! hell, it might even not have anything to do with sephu or cloud! the only actual sequel I've seen so far is the advent children movie. DoC is just a Spin-off.
It does seem odd that Square spent years afraid to do anything else based on FF7 because they didn't want to risk ruining something special or watering it down through over-milking. Then all of a sudden there are more follow-ups and merchandise than Pokemon.
However I do believe they can pull it off. I loved FFX-2 and didn't think I would even like it, so there's hope :)
One of the screenshots looks strikingly like Metal Gear Solid... it was almost as if they actually took a shot out of MGS and spliced Vincent in there on top of where Snake was. The "hide on the stairs pointing your gun at some guards blocking the door" gesture, the style of the guards and even the look of the room had MGS written all over it. If they can copy the kind of moving story it had too, they could be onto a winner.
I'm not bothered at it being an action game but 1 thing I do hope is that it has some RPG factors in it. I loved FF7 (as everyone else did) and I'm looking forward to this now, but what about Final Fantasy 12?? Should Square-Enix not be concentrating on that?? The longer it takes to come out in Japan the even longer it'll take to come out in the UK!!
Alright, we've heard from many supporters of the game, and of FFX-2, and of FFX, and of "the recent FF games". Now, let's loan an ear to someone who's a bit more cynical.
I liked FFVII as much as the next guy, and in fact, that was probably the last FF game, if you don't count FFT, that was really good. I disliked VIII, X, X-2, and XI. IX wasn't bad, but I wouldn't consider it really good. And now that you know my opinions on the past games, I dislike the idea of making any sort of sequel to a FF game. Any sort, be it RPG, Shooter, or Movie.
Do I believe trying new things is bad? No, I don't. I'm all for it, however, there are people out there who like stability, too. That is the catch. When a company attempts to be innovative they must sacrifice, at least initially, the stability they once had. When following tradition, there is less innovation, but more stability -- it worked in the past, and still works now.
It's hard to draw the line when there is too much innovation, and too much repetition. I acknowledge that it's a fine balance, and is probably quite difficult to keep.
However, my opinions are based on my feelings, and I'm the sort of person who likes stability. After achieving stability, it's fine to innovate, as long as it stays true to its roots. That is my feeling on this matter.
Making sequels to FF games breaks that tradition, and breaking this particular tradition is something I, personally, would not do if I were running the company.
What I would rather see is taking chances with innovation in new games, as opposed to breaking other traditions to do it. If Square wanted to make an Action game, then I would rather them make a wholely original game. If Square wanted to start making direct sequels to their games, I would have them start a new series, and start doing so from there.
I understand that many of you feel differently than I do. That's fine. But I think instead of telling those of us whom are opposed to your views to be more open minded, perhaps you should be more open minded to our views.
hn...i think the game is gonna make 'em millions. devil may cry sold pretty nicely so if there are a lot of vincent fans and i know there is the game will go out with a big bang. personally i think they should've made a game based on sephiroth.